[Event] An Exchange of Pleasantries + GRP ID Conversion (Completed)

[WesternPeregrine]

The current rule of thumb is you need visual contact to acquire valid evidence of presence and related criminal action. So I believe.

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[Emperor Tekagi]

You're sadly wrong. What LPI has is TLAGSNET. It is already hard enough to avoid that (trips take much more time, as you have to avoid both gates and lanes), as using the scan-command is already killing most of the serious-level smuggling. It's pretty easy: Using the playerlist to get information you want to use inRP is pretty much a no-go and the RP elite only takes screenshots and logs. That is pretty much the consent of the current playerbase. Using metagame-sensors is not only cheap, but also pretty nonsensical. You suddenly have information of a name, but you don't know what type of ship it is and you don't know the cargo. In my particular situation, I got contacted via system chat the moment I left the badlands with the LPI on the other end of the system.

This calls for a statement from the officials.

TLAGSNET is a scanning module which was worked into Trade Lane and Gate technology, it's a simple sensor giving basic information about vessels using said things. The issue with this here, gameplay-wise, is that it is at the edge of metagaming. It depends on the user though.

For us in LPI- it's common to take the information TLAGSNET can deliver as hints, considering our own technology to often malfunction (mind you lanes get attacked quite often, it would be no surprise for malfunctions here and there), and thus investigate based on said hints. Meaning we go check things ourselves, using normal scanners to go sure if what TLAGSNET said was correct or not.
Just going to accuse someone of a crime based only on TLAGSNET data is considered invalid and not tolerated by me ooRPly as well. How indies use it.. well, individual cases.

[Sombs]

That's all legit. What LPI doesn't do is using the playerlist as inRP information, and that is how it is right. If someone avoids lanes and gates and is flying through nebulae and asteroid fields, that guy deserves to not be found that easily by playerlisting. If you happen to find that person by patroling, then it was simply fair play.

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[Cursetantine]

If you want I can just disable the event, if this is causing so many issues. Or just knock down the CPS to regular routes.

No the event is pretty good and I respect the work done there.It's just smuggling is OP and makes no sense RP wise.

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[Etaphreven]

If you want I can just disable the event, if this is causing so many issues. Or just knock down the CPS to regular routes.

No the event is pretty good and I respect the work done there.It's just smuggling is OP and makes no sense RP wise.

That is true. The last smuggling event had a Freeport as buying point for smugglers. I don't know how the lawfuls have such a hard time preventing smuggling though, as the sell point is a military dreadnought... They would be well within their rights to "camp" it. Until now I haven't been caught by them even once, only pirated twice. I'm not even using special routes to avoid them. The only time I use JHs instead is when I'm too lazy to dock on a trillion lanes.

[oZoneRanger]

If you want I can just disable the event, if this is causing so many issues. Or just knock down the CPS to regular routes.

No the event is pretty good and I respect the work done there.It's just smuggling is OP and makes no sense RP wise.

That is true. The last smuggling event had a Freeport as buying point for smugglers. I don't know how the lawfuls have such a hard time preventing smuggling though, as the sell point is a military dreadnought... They would be well within their rights to "camp" it. Until now I haven't been caught by them even once, only pirated twice. I'm not even using special routes to avoid them. The only time I use JHs instead is when I'm too lazy to dock on a trillion lanes.

Even if police/military do camp it. ooRP smugglers just quick dock, log off and log back on when the system is clean. These are /renameme wash&repeat smugglers with no Forum post as smugglers. If you catch them out in space, they are also content to just get blown up as they then just return to the buy point and start over again when the player list is clean in the system they are selling. As a cop, after 3 or 4 times of this and waiting for 3 or 4 hours, it gets old, boring and tiresome. Posting an RP "report" on the forums about a specific smuggler gets nothing done as, like I said..... all you have to do is think of a new name for your Samura Train and /renameme and there are no consequences to pay.

[Etaphreven]

Even if police/military do camp it. ooRP smugglers just quick dock, log off and log back on when the system is clean. These are /renameme wash&repeat smugglers with no Forum post as smugglers. If you catch them out in space, they are also content to just get blown up as they then just return to the buy point and start over again when the player list is clean in the system they are selling. As a cop, after 3 or 4 times of this and waiting for 3 or 4 hours, it gets old, boring and tiresome. Posting an RP "report" on the forums about a specific smuggler gets nothing done as, like I said..... all you have to do is think of a new name for your Samura Train and /renameme and there are no consequences to pay.

That happens with everything though, it's not related to this event.

EDIT: Also, the /renameme command has a 1 week cooldown as far as I know. You can't just rename all day long.

[Sombs]

The event shouldn't encourage that, though.

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[Etaphreven]

The event shouldn't encourage that, though.

How does the event encourage it?

[Sombs]

To make money in this event, you only need to make a new character. That is done in five minutes. /restart RhCorpRepublican, move to Alster, pay 220 million for Stork + 5000 units event commodity from the Westphalen. So you're on the go. You give your ship a shitty name, something totally unregocnizeable. I could make a list of lolwut names from the actual event, actually, but I prefer to not call people out. If you get caught smuggling, you either get fined or shot down and you simply can start over, with the only loss being 25 million credits from the load. You don't even lose much time, because you can simply go to another route. And what the usual smugglers do, I already mentioned posts earlier. The lolwut-smugglers are literally no benefit for the server. They do minimal RP, if anything, and avoid certain areas by counter-playerlisting, quickdocking, F1 in space and all that. Police-forces can FR5 them, they simply rename.

With officials, you don't have that. They are players of a certain responsibility. If they behave like that, they are more likely to kicked out. Officials have to show more carefulness. They could go smuggling, but they can't simply rename, because they represent the faction. If a Liberty Military Freighter gets caught in Rheinland smuggling, it has consequences. Action -> Reactio. To avoid that being smuggling, people need to RP. So far, only Bretonia did so, as Thunderer sent messages to Rheinland for Straussberg and Mississipi in Texas. Those people care about inRP consistency and immersion, other than lolwut-traders that magically get their hands on Samura ID Kujiras (lol!) and also get their cargo bays stuffed with military cargo as if the people on board of battleships wouldn't check the papers.

If officials behave NOPEy, F1 in space and all that, their feedback threads are on fire like after a meal at KFC.


So you see, the officials have it less easy than lolwuts. They have to be responsible. They need to RP the stuff out first (with Rheinland and Kusari very, very slow on responses).

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