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Offline Sombs
05-13-2017, 03:56 PM,
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Or think about this: If you want to be just another faction that can only rely on ooRP circlejerks with its own members in other factions, have it your way. If you want to be open for anything, then don't close the doors by trying to make every second word a racist slur against others. The Unioners may not like foreigners. Doesn't mean they have to show that constantly, because then you're nothing more than NPCs. I'd rather see you guys being racist when it is internal and be clever like the LH guys when it is external, and in the best cases, don't make deals based on "Hey, you're member of that faction, right? Could we...?"

Because if that happens, it will be known in the community.




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Offline The Syndicate Leagues
05-13-2017, 03:59 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-13-2017, 04:00 PM by The Syndicate Leagues.)
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(05-13-2017, 03:56 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Or think about this: If you want to be just another faction that can only rely on ooRP circlejerks with its own members in other factions, have it your way. If you want to be open for anything, then don't close the doors by trying to make every second word a racist slur against others. The Unioners may not like foreigners. Doesn't mean they have to show that constantly, because then you're nothing more than NPCs. I'd rather see you guys being racist when it is internal and be clever like the LH guys when it is external, and in the best cases, don't make deals based on "Hey, you're member of that faction, right? Could we...?"

Because if that happens, it will be known in the community.

Oorp Circlejerks?


If one person plays 2 characters who through different event chains made friends with different characters who happen to have the same tag thorugh mutually beneficial RP that was never leading up to an end, a defection, or anything more than a few people who have reasons to respect each other, were made to stay apart because they're played by the same person, that would just be darn' frustrating.

There are no Circlejerks. I have explained everything to people whenever the "conflict of interest" issue came up.

As for "hating all foreigners?" We work with foreign organisations by nature - we smuggle. We have far more positive reps than Hellfire Legion. What? They are courteous to some, but in different enviroments.
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Offline Sombs
05-13-2017, 04:01 PM,
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I didn't say you are having that. However, when people inRP have no interest in dealing with you, what then?




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05-13-2017, 04:04 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-13-2017, 04:05 PM by The Syndicate Leagues.)
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(05-13-2017, 04:01 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: I didn't say you are having that. However, when people inRP have no interest in dealing with you, what then?

That's called dynamic reputation. It's okay for not everyone to be green. The whole idea of this faction was to be more aggressive - that was in the mission statement.
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05-13-2017, 04:12 PM,
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You're sadly not getting my point. Instead of defending your point - which will end up chaning nothing - try to understand what I mean. You come here and open a thread, asking for help. Now I can't see much of the problems you guys have. You're roaming around ingame, you partook in the pews we invited you, you have RP ongoing. Now you say that is not enough. You have a difficult reputation ingame, a reputation that doesn't allow as many interaction opportunities like for example the Commune or Auxesia are having with their nearly unlimited ZoI and the strong tendency to make use of that. So you don't get in touch with some factions anyway. Another reason for me to put my focus on those that are around. Now, for example, the Lane Hackers. InRP they are brilliant. OoRP everyone is just as brilliant as the person portraying them, and LH has the benefit of having at least one rather dangerously intelligent person in a leading position, to word it cautiously. The question is right now what the Unioners are. Are they a bunch of space punks that just follow the same agenda or are they organized and have a few leaders that prefer to hide their own emotions for the business, like most badass organizations have that?

What kind of interaction do you expect from someone who isn't at least neutral or better to you? Was that a bit better explained?




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Offline The Syndicate Leagues
05-13-2017, 04:18 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-13-2017, 04:21 PM by The Syndicate Leagues.)
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(05-13-2017, 04:12 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: You're sadly not getting my point. Instead of defending your point - which will end up chaning nothing - try to understand what I mean. You come here and open a thread, asking for help. Now I can't see much of the problems you guys have. You're roaming around ingame, you partook in the pews we invited you, you have RP ongoing. Now you say that is not enough. You have a difficult reputation ingame, a reputation that doesn't allow as many interaction opportunities like for example the Commune or Auxesia are having with their nearly unlimited ZoI and the strong tendency to make use of that. So you don't get in touch with some factions anyway. Another reason for me to put my focus on those that are around. Now, for example, the Lane Hackers. InRP they are brilliant. OoRP everyone is just as brilliant as the person portraying them, and LH has the benefit of having at least one rather dangerously intelligent person in a leading position, to word it cautiously. The question is right now what the Unioners are. Are they a bunch of space punks that just follow the same agenda or are they organized and have a few leaders that prefer to hide their own emotions for the business, like most badass organizations have that?

What kind of interaction do you expect from someone who isn't at least neutral or better to you? Was that a bit better explained?

Very well, thank you.

We have been focusing on the factions around us - both lawful and unlawful. If you've noticed we've done quite a bit of diplomacy - and practically none of it has been threats. It's all been seeing what could be done, and having ballanced, fair ways to do things on either side.

Again, I RP a diplomatic higher-up on the forum, and a punk ingame. The Unioners are not monolithic and we will not be monolithic. I can see how you might think that's a problem, but to me, that's working as intended. If people don't want -that- kind of faction, then Unioners doesn't belong here.

I think it does.
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Offline Sombs
05-13-2017, 04:21 PM,
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Well, what are the core problems of the Unioners then?




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05-13-2017, 04:26 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-13-2017, 04:26 PM by The Syndicate Leagues.)
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(05-13-2017, 04:21 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Well, what are the core problems of the Unioners then?

- Sudden activity drops.

- People took Oorp fights from other factions into UN chat.

Suddenly put a bust on what was a healthy faction.
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05-13-2017, 04:28 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-13-2017, 04:28 PM by Sombs.)
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And what do you personally think could be done about it?




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05-13-2017, 04:45 PM,
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(05-13-2017, 04:28 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: And what do you personally think could be done about it?

- Less general worry about conspiracies.

- More people feeling like they're free to tell jokes.

- Less worry about RP direction - just do it.
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