Players Sanctioned: Gregor.O'Malley, Anthony.Tarkin, HMS-Matilda, HMS-Royal.Enfield

[sindroms]

Gregor.O'Malley
Anthony.Tarkin - mild warning
BAF|HMS-Matilda
BAF|HMS-Royal.Enfield
have been sanctioned for:

4.4 Every char must have only one type of ID equipped and they must play to that ID.

Consequences: Money/Equipment removed to cover the fine, cargo replaced with a sanction note

BAF and Mollys should not be in the same group while shooting corsairs. The only ID between the lot of you who could do this was Anthony.Tarkin, who receives a simple heads up to consider pointing out this issue to his friends next time.

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[Ikarus_Hagen]

Anthony.Tarkin here, i accept the warning but i have to say that i told them that it is not allowed, but the molly told me that his ID say that he can ally with lawfuls to fight corsairs, after that i stood silent.

[sindroms]

The current Molly ID does indeed have this line, however the BAF ID does not. Furthermore, the line in the Molly ID was meant specifically for IMG with their own line stating that they may not ally with unlawfuls except with Red Hessians and Mollys against other Unlawfuls only.

That ID is the 'lawful' that the Molly ID references.

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[AlphaWolf215]

As the leader of BAF|, I'd like to request evidence please, so that I may carry on with my investigation and appropriately punish those involved.

This is something I've warned members about countless times in the past (due to the old RHA NAP), so this is not something that will go unresolved.

Thank you
Joe

[Ikarus_Hagen]

The current Molly ID does indeed have this line, however the BAF ID does not. Furthermore, the line in the Molly ID was meant specifically for IMG with their own line stating that they may not ally with unlawfuls except with Red Hessians and Mollys against other Unlawfuls only.

That ID is the 'lawful' that the Molly ID references.

ah, ok for the next time i know that now

[Thunderer]

It's my fault that the Molly was invited. I was tricked. But not by the Molly. I was tricked by the rules.

[10.06.2017 13:58:00] /fi gregor.o
[10.06.2017 13:58:18] BAF|Cdr.Seeley.French: Entering Cambridge in seconds
[10.06.2017 13:58:20] Gregor.O'Malley: Ahoy dere
[10.06.2017 13:58:24] BAF|Cdr.Seeley.French: 2 pirate GBs in o-3
[10.06.2017 13:58:30] Gregor.O'Malley: I'm a Molly, ye don't mind that?
[10.06.2017 13:58:38] BAF|Cdr.Seeley.French: Oh. Sorry, thought you were BAF
[10.06.2017 13:58:40] Gregor.O'Malley: Though I'm not against to fight some sairs
[10.06.2017 13:58:43] BAF|Cdr.Seeley.French: Some other Gregor then
[10.06.2017 13:58:48] Gregor.O'Malley: I can help ye
[10.06.2017 13:58:56] BAF|Cdr.Seeley.French: We can't group according to the rules, so can you please leave? Sorry for inviting
[10.06.2017 13:59:02] BAF|Cdr.Seeley.French: You can shoot the Sairs still, though
[10.06.2017 13:59:04] Gregor.O'Malley: Sure, one moment
[10.06.2017 13:59:05] Gregor.O'Malley: Wait
[10.06.2017 13:59:28] Anthony.Tarkin: //hey, can you invite me please? BIS indie here
[10.06.2017 13:59:30] Gregor.O'Malley: //but the ID says, Cannot ally with any lawfuls except against br lawfuls or Corsairs
[10.06.2017 13:59:35] /fi anthony.
[10.06.2017 13:59:52] BAF|Cdr.Seeley.French: Oh, then it's okay
[10.06.2017 13:59:56] Gregor.O'Malley: alright

Confirmation that Mollies may group with any lawfuls when fighting against Corsairs ("Cannot ally with any lawfuls except against Bretonia lawfuls or Corsairs"): http://imgur.com/8y9j2SX.jpg

The Molly (Gregor.O'Malley) did nothing wrong here. I don't know why they were sanctioned. Please reverse their sanction, it is not founded on anything.

The BAF ID, however, doesn't have this line, so the BAF broke the rules here, albeit being unaware of that. If the Mollies can group with the BAF, and the BAF can't group with the Mollies, then the line in the Molly ID is nonsensical and needs to be removed as quickly as possible in order to avoid further confusion, or adjusted. Or add a line that agrees with this one to the BAF ID.

Thank you for keeping this place in order, but please bring the rules into order previously.

PS: Eh. Forgot about the practice when receiving a sanction. Can I receive the evidence too, please? Alphawolf has asked for them, but he usually can't be contacted, at least on time.

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[sindroms]

It does not need to be removed.
It needs to be replaced with the actual lawful factions that have the same line in their IDs and are actually allowed to ally with.

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[Thunderer]

Yes, it needs to be tweaked. Very quickly. Like, now. Or immediately, for example. But of course, I understand that the admins are busy and have a lot of sanctions to process before fixing the rules. I will also remind you again that Gregor.O'Malley did nothing wrong here. Will their sanction be reversed?

Still waiting for the evidence, by the way. I guess you are sending the PM as we speak. Alphawolf has, against all odds, actually contacted me, full of anger because of what treacherous slander I write about him constantly, and told me that he had not received it. He told me some other things too, but I would not like to speak about that.

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[St.Denis]

Evidence sent as requested.

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Life is full of disappointments, it is how we handle them that helps to define us, as a person

[sindroms]

The sanction for the Molly will not be reversed as the line regarding allying against Corsairs does not involve the BAF ID. Re-read the line again - BAF are, along with corsairs, what the Mollys can aid other Lawful IDs against.

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