This is balanced?

[Drax[Trader]]

I think gunboats just need their rockets boosted. (rh one)

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My Characters:
[Pirate]Black-Crimson - Raven Claw
Drax[Trader] - Large Train
(RM)Lt.Biess - Rheinland Valkyrie
[RM]RMV-Rauenthal - Rheinland Cruiser
[RM]BS-Andhrimnir - Rheinland Battleship
"Deadeye" - Bounty Hunter - Barracuda
BS-Sakishima - Independent Kusari Battleship

All gone gotta make them new ...

[Dab]

Dude this is about fighters too. Don't just post a half line thing. Propose something then give your reasons and evidence.

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[Fire-Fly]

Dude this is about fighters too. Don't just post a half line thing. Propose something then give your reasons and evidence.

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i can't be bothered to type loads as i'm tired...... but i aggree, it is unbalanced..

Capital ships need MUCH more armour and shielding as the way it is atm, 2 fighters can destroy a capital ship in a matter of seconds using only their guns, no missiles or anything..

now come on...... in the single player, you were worried about capital ships and didn't go near them.... yet here, a single fighter can take out a battleship? i think not....... Fighters either need to be made weaker, or capital ships given MUCH more armour to protect them from the fire-power from fighters weapons.

as i'm sure many of you PVP cap ship fans will aggree

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Admiral Fire-Fly (Flt Adm Stuttgart)

Ships Currently In Commision;

Fire-Fly (Large Train)
[RM]-Fire-Fly (RM Cruiser)
[RM]-Lt. Fire-Fly (RM Valkye MKII)

[marauder]

The osiris is a pirate BS, at least it's the only one used by an NPC pirate faction.

The SF has always used liberty and britonian ships, some people will argue that the osiris is a liberty ship.

As for the RM, well they'd have to face angel and kane if they didn't use rhienland ships.

Like dab said, everyone else seems more interested in winning fights then having fun.

[Tain]

Whether it is balanced or not, I ask you one question. How do you add new content to this game without upgrading -something-, when everything is already at maximum pretty much (IE: Eagle has the best maneuverability, Titans have the largest power plant, etc.)? Are you going to make a really crappy ship in hopes that someone will go, "Oh, well, I feel like being statistically inferior to everything else in space" and purchase that ship?

The two fighters in question cost MORE than gunboats. Mull that one over for a second. To reiterate... they cost four million more credits than the most expensive gunboat. Are you saying that you shouldn't get what you pay for? <-- Nixxing this part thanks to an err on my part pointed out by the generous LORD CAPTAIN OF ASGARD WARRIORS.

On that note, I've always known that gunboats are inferior to fighters in terms of flexibility. It would be different if you could assign your turrets to track a target while you yourself are busy performing evasive maneuvers, but alas, this is not EVE. Ultimately what it comes down to is the capital ships in general, gunboats included, need an upgraded antifighter turret. I've already stated this elsewhere, but I'm not going to bother digging the post up just to say, "SEE LOOK I SAID IT".

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Penguin.

[Drax[Trader]]

Gunboats are supposed to be quite fast, maybe boosting their speed and the rocket's agility will help a bit.
Maybe if differing speed of ships it gets bit more balance?

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My Characters:
[Pirate]Black-Crimson - Raven Claw
Drax[Trader] - Large Train
(RM)Lt.Biess - Rheinland Valkyrie
[RM]RMV-Rauenthal - Rheinland Cruiser
[RM]BS-Andhrimnir - Rheinland Battleship
&quot;Deadeye&quot; - Bounty Hunter - Barracuda
BS-Sakishima - Independent Kusari Battleship

All gone gotta make them new ...

[Fire-Fly]

so you seriously think a single fighter should be able to take down a battleship then? lol.......

i can't be bothered with arguing...... this mod is suited for player vs NPC's only..... go into PVP, and it gets totally unfair.....

and with these new restrictions on shields? even more so...... now i've been here a few years now, and the amount of times this conversation has come up.... is unbelievable..... and the conclusion is..... its impossible to draw one, as different people will see different parts of the mod as everyone wants something different out of it.

but when it comes to PVP...... i'm not having 2 puny fighters being able to rip apart my ship in a matter of seconds when i spent millions on it and slaved away for for days on end in order to be able to enjoy it.

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Admiral Fire-Fly (Flt Adm Stuttgart)

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Fire-Fly (Large Train)
[RM]-Fire-Fly (RM Cruiser)
[RM]-Lt. Fire-Fly (RM Valkye MKII)

[CruelKilroy]

I witnessed it last night 2 [Phantom] Ravenclaws tore through an Osiris and a Liberty Dreadnaught and it was sad, as they did not kill either fighter once! I think that BSs need to have something done for them.

I cannot speak for GB's or Cruisers as I have no used either of them

The osiris is a pirate BS, at least it's the only one used by an NPC pirate faction.

The SF has always used liberty and britonian ships, some people will argue that the osiris is a liberty ship.

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It acually is if you played the campaign it was constructed in a joint effort by the Liberty Security Force and Liberty Navy, stolen by the Order and used by them wich I assume the order sold one to the corsairs as well so techincally it is a Liberty ship.

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Stupid PC can no longer handle the Disco mod.... sutpid PC....

[Tain]

so you seriously think a single fighter should be able to take down a battleship then? lol.......

but when it comes to PVP...... i'm not having 2 puny fighters being able to rip apart my ship in a matter of seconds when&nbsp; i spent millions on it and slaved away for for days on end in order to be able to enjoy it.

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Ultimately what it comes down to is the capital ships in general, gunboats included, need an upgraded antifighter turret. I've already stated this elsewhere, but I'm not going to bother digging the post up just to say, "SEE LOOK I SAID IT".

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Thanks for paying attention and playing along; your post helps to bring us forward to a solution that works.

Yes, I am responding to your satire with satire.

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Penguin.

[Fire-Fly]

Thanks for paying attention and playing along; your post helps to bring us forward to a solution that works.

Yes, I am responding to your satire with satire.

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f*****g i****t.....

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Admiral Fire-Fly (Flt Adm Stuttgart)

Ships Currently In Commision;

Fire-Fly (Large Train)
[RM]-Fire-Fly (RM Cruiser)
[RM]-Lt. Fire-Fly (RM Valkye MKII)