[CSW] recruitment

[Equinox]

This whole business is handled off-site to maintain anonymity. Most people are afraid that they will become KOS to all if they post in support.

Ive been to the "off site" you talk about and its empty.

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[n00bl3t]

RP should be enjoyable for everybody, yes?

Sigged.

Ive been to the "off site" you talk about and its empty.

That off-site hasn't been developed. I haven't even been on it yet. Most of it takes place through email, not forum PM's either. Thats what I mean, as in off the Discovery site.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Tenacity]

I'm not going to address all the misinformed points you've presented in the past three pages akumabito, but there are a few I'm going to argue:

-You keep saying the harvesters are a pvpwhoring group that make the junkers look worse than your faction would.

Do your research, read through the RP posted for the harvester faction. They're machines, not people. They have an agenda, and they only destroy (npcs OR players) when they are directly threatened.

The Harvesters, by RP, are not junkers. They use the junker tag and ID in-game; with permission from both admins and junker players; because through their RP they've forged an alliance with junkers. We provide their ships with repairs and supplies when required, and in exchange they do not attack us, and are powerful allies when we do need firepower.

Junkers do not go looking for fights. We solve issues politically - through blackmail, bribes, and our connections within both lawful and unlawful factions. That's the reason we havent been shut down by any faction yet, because we provide them what they want in exchange for our privacy of operations. If Liberty gets too nosy for comfort, we hand them a few deadbeat criminals on terms of 'good faith'. If the unlawful groups decide to get violent, we deny them all access to the black market and our stations, and we stop smuggling for them - those two actions alone can shut down groups even as large as the outcasts and corsairs.

If you want to be a junker, you need to learn how to fight with your words and not your guns. It's quite obvious from your posts that you are incapable of such.

-You say your justification for using battleships is 'because the blood dragons have them'?

Look at the enemies of the two factions and think carefully about who needs the ships more.

Junkers have two enemy factions: Hogosha and Xenos.
Hogosha, like the junkers, prefer to fight through politics rather than with big ships - and they stick to fighters and freighters for the same reasons junkers do.
Xenos are limited to bombers and fighters only because their faction cannot afford anything larger. There are only a couple capships being used by xeno players - both are gunboats, and both have been approved by admins via the terrorist ID card.

Blood Dragons are enemies to the Kusari Naval Forces, Kusari State Police, Hogosha, Farmer's Alliance, and all Kusari Corporations. Four of those have access to capital ships, two of those four commonly use capships. Blood dragons have supporters all over kusari space, and they exist outside of kusari space - allowing them to build their own fleets in secrecy. They have REASON to use capships, junkers do not.

If you want to be a junker in a 'powerful' ship, fly a container transport. That's as good as you're going to get. Just because our ID allows us to use capships doesnt mean we do.






Nobody here agrees with your faction, or your arguments trying to justify it. There was no need for 7 pages of posts here - you should have caught onto the idea that you were being rejected after the first three.

Now drop it, you will not be approved for this faction with so much voiced objection to it. Admins, lock this thread please, it's getting out of hand.

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[Taffic]

Just because our ID allows us to use capships doesnt mean we do.

// I always felt the alteration of the Junker ID was wrong.
// The only ships I have purchased as Taffic are the CSV, Collector & TRF - why... 'cause I'm playing a Junker.
// I'd like the Junker ID to revert back to Fighter & Freighter only. Same with the Hogosha.
// 'nuff said.

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[Tenacity]

// I always felt the alteration of the Junker ID was wrong.
// The only ships I have purchased as Taffic are the CSV, Collector & TRF - why... 'cause I'm playing a Junker.
// I'd like the Junker ID to revert back to Fighter & Freighter only. Same with the Hogosha.
// 'nuff said.

dont forget transports =P

My junker flies a firefly, but I might end up switching to the salvager jinx designed if it gets released with 4.85. Either that, or I'll make a new character/story based on the salvager.

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[uspatriotsf]

I would rather not read 7 full pages, and I don't think I need to as I got all I need in the first page.

I am going to say this as bluntly and firmly as I can. This will not be a faction on Discovery. "Even if we get 5 members?" Yes, even if you get 5 members. With all the independent capwhores running around who won't join a faction because they would have to fly a fighter, you'd be able to get the highest faction membership here with this, pardon my harshness, rubish faction.

There will be no capship and nothing but capship faction. If you look, you will see that the majority of factions here limit the amount of capships in there faction to it's highest ranking members. You wanna give capships to everyone?!? Not to mention the fact that (at least from the little bit I read) all of your "Junkers" will actually be LN, RM, Outcast, Corsair, BAF, KNF, etc. captains.

Sorry, but it aint gonna happen. Im not about to judge your motives, as I don't know you, but I can't help but wonder if this is any attempt at RP for RP's sake, or just RP to justify mass PwnZor fleets of capships.

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[sovereign]

// I always felt the alteration of the Junker ID was wrong.
// The only ships I have purchased as Taffic are the CSV, Collector & TRF - why... 'cause I'm playing a Junker.
// I'd like the Junker ID to revert back to Fighter & Freighter only. Same with the Hogosha.
// 'nuff said.

This will shortly be corrected in the ID proposals. The Junker Guard ID will still allow capships, but if you go around flaunting them then good luck staying non-KoS with... anybody?

Akumabito has some sort of grudge. A very weird, logic-distorting, very personal grudge, directed mainly at the Outcasts (notice how the 101st politely asking people to be responsible with their destroyers is met with far more hostility than, say, Rheinland, where:

Rheinland Law:

Rule #5: Independent Military are Restricted!
- No pilot other then [RM] official are to enforce our laws.
- All Rheinland Ship and IDed pilots are to give a full background on how they acquired their ships. (And we don't buy bogus stories)
- [RM] have command over any independent pilot, Military or not. We don't care for what class vessel you're flying.

Note that we won't force any independent pilot into a fight, as they are not one of our own, they have their own choice.

>.>

How exactly are the Outcasts more strict than this, again?)





I believe somewhere Akumabito was identified as a troll.

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[Dennis Jameson]

And once again the world amazes me in such a way that words cannot describe it... But i'll try anyway.

See, i thought i was a RP purist, seeming how i've been sitting few a couple of hundred D&D games in my day, but you, Nooblet, truly takes the prize.

Let's go through a couple of the "flaws" in my RP, as you put it then shall we? I discuss the basics of my research in system chat, yes, so bloody what? Omicron Alpha is an outcast system after all, and any space jock with a scanner can see that there is somethign seriously disturbing going on in my cargo hold.

I sit around in Omicron Alpha all the time? Not true, i venture into the nomad systems to collect specimens from time to time, and when i'm not doing that i sit around in orbit around Malta to act as a limited defense when no one is around, and to "research" stuff while in orbit, cause you know, my research isn't exactly legal. Would you rather have me go around Sirius talking with a faked pirate accent and say "1 mil or u diez, lulz"?

And Eppy is right about the RH pirate cruiser. I bought it because it's inferior, just like a science cruiser should be. It's a scrapheap, made by the lowest bidder, a first generation hessian cruiser that was gutted of all parts and had a make-shift lab built into it. So. What? I'm not a powergamer, i like to play the "odd" classes, both in a game like Freelancer, and in a game like D&D. I'm still stunned that there are no true R&D factions in the game, but who am i to judge others, that's your job, nooblet.

Thanks for defending me Epyon, but i don't think this guy is going to listen. It is quite clear that he has is own opinion of what is "true" RP and what is not.

\\Thread Hijack, off.

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[n00bl3t]

And once again the world amazes me in such a way that words cannot describe it... But i'll try anyway.

See, i thought i was a RP purist, seeming how i've been sitting few a couple of hundred D&D games in my day, but you, Nooblet, truly takes the prize.

Let's go through a couple of the "flaws" in my RP, as you put it then shall we? I discuss the basics of my research in system chat, yes, so bloody what? Omicron Alpha is an outcast system after all, and any space jock with a scanner can see that there is somethign seriously disturbing going on in my cargo hold.

I sit around in Omicron Alpha all the time? Not true, i venture into the nomad systems to collect specimens from time to time, and when i'm not doing that i sit around in orbit around Malta to act as a limited defense when no one is around, and to "research" stuff while in orbit, cause you know, my research isn't exactly legal. Would you rather have me go around Sirius talking with a faked pirate accent and say "1 mil or u diez, lulz"?

And Eppy is right about the RH pirate cruiser. I bought it because it's inferior, just like a science cruiser should be. It's a scrapheap, made by the lowest bidder, a first generation hessian cruiser that was gutted of all parts and had a make-shift lab built into it. So. What? I'm not a powergamer, i like to play the "odd" classes, both in a game like Freelancer, and in a game like D&D. I'm still stunned that there are no true R&D factions in the game, but who am i to judge others, that's your job, nooblet.

Thanks for defending me Epyon, but i don't think this guy is going to listen. It is quite clear that he has is own opinion of what is "true" RP and what is not.

\\Thread Hijack, off.

Everyone thinks they are something. RP purist? I'm sure I have a screenshot of //system messages by you as well as seeing you let a level 51 civilian ID player dock on Malta without even questioning them. Limited defense? Yes, I would say that sums it up.

Your discussion of research in system chat is nothing to me. Frankly I do not care. What I do care is about Eppy calling it very very secret work and then details of it are all over system for the visiting junker to hear.

Your long-range scanners researching the JH to Omicron 90 from the docking ring on Malta?

If that's your fake pirate accent, well then I could see why you do not. Such OORP language could get you sanctioned.

I have my own definition of what is RP and what is not. So do you. So does Eppy. And so does Akumabito, which is why we're here. I'm not the elitist here, surprised you have not seen that already.

I'm the one who judges others, yes that is true. That's why I judged someone to be an "uninformed wanker" in the 42nd post of this thread.

This whole thing is a hijack anyway, since Akumabito only asked for characters who wanted to join to post in-character. (You know, the stuff that's been parodied by the veteran community members which a certain Angel thinks have earned respect. I'm not saying that they don't deserve respect, but their actions certainly are, well, I suppose it's my turn to run out of word words to describe it.)

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[song]

What's NOT good about this is the open hostility and insult by some of those opposed to it. This is what sours the fun of Discovery as a game we play together. We don't have to agree but we also don't have to be southern ends of north-bound mules when we disagree.

All that was lacking with some of your replies were letters written in dripping blood and threats against his family.

Be nice, lighten up--please.

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