Ending the Capship Issue(and more)

[Akumabito]

"For-indy" supporters listen to me. Please try to help us factions, help the Indy players who are not doing ANY RP ingame or in the forums. That is the issue I think. That is the way forward...the established Indies. Please help us factions to train the PVP thinkers into RP thinking. If that's possible.

The factions aren't helping the indies, that's the whole issue. It's the factions who put registering a ship and pvp whoring as more important than RP.

Where's the RP in "register your destroyer or we'll pvp whore you!"

There is none, that's what makes this faction policy a joke. It's nothing but an excuse to get back at the indies who beat them in battle, just like eppy said, his battleship got blown up by four osiris's so he's doing this.

[Eppy]

And you'd do any different? Can you see something so blatantly wrong and not try to change it? There are rules of decency here, boy, and the harder it is to break them the better the Roleplaying the atmosphere will be.

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Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen

Which Dreadnought was that?

One of your nine.

[Akumabito]

There are rules of decency here, boy, and the harder it is to break them the better the Roleplaying the atmosphere will be.

You don't care about the RPing, if you did you wouldn't put your own ego above it.

This cap ship registry doesn't help RP, you know it and I know it.

The day you do start caring about anyone on this server beside yourself is the day you deserve to be thought of as something other than a petty, pissed off teenage boy.

[Ors]

The factions aren't helping the indies, that's the whole issue. It's the factions who put registering a ship and pvp whoring as more important than RP.

Where's the RP in "register your destroyer or we'll pvp whore you!"

There is none, that's what makes this faction policy a joke. It's nothing but an excuse to get back at the indies who beat them in battle, just like eppy said, his battleship got blown up by four osiris's so he's doing this.

If you own a Capital Class ship made by a NPC faction's shipyard, the OFFICIAL player faction that plays that NPC faction, has the right to monitor who is buying what in their shipyards.

You can argue all you want but that is a fact.

What is so evil in asking you to register your craft? What did they ask you? You are making a mountain out of a little stone..

There is much RP in asking Capital Ship class captions to register their craft upon buying it, for so many reasons that were mentioned already.

Stop thinking this is just a petty fight over who pwnt who, and stop twisting words to show as if it is that way. Eppy gave you an example as you guys so asked for one. That was all of it.
If we wanted all indie cap ships gone, we would of just KoSed you all and just take up bombers and shoot any capship on sight.
no, we are just asking you to register.
So stop with making a big fuss out of it and just register.

[Kane]

Oi! You all there!

Cut out the personal accusations, or I -will- be locking this thread! We don't tolerate those kinds of attitudes around here. You will be civil and courteous, or your posting will be deleted, and possibly your rights to do so revoked for a time. Are we clear? Good.

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[Akumabito]

If you own a Capital Class ship made by a NPC faction's shipyard, the OFFICIAL player faction that plays that NPC faction, has the right to monitor who is buying what in their shipyards.

No, they may, and only may have a right to restrict what is sold in those systems (and even that isn't clear in the rules).


As long as I have a proper tag and ID for the ship it's perfectly legal to fly it on the server.

Also, registration doesn't help. If a guy buys a cap ship (or anything else) for pvp whoring forcing him to register changes that how, exactly?

As far as pvp whoring cap ships, who really cares? I leave my bretonia battleship parkind in space in front of new london so the QC can blow it up, if you want I'll take my unregistered outcast destroyer and meet you so you can blow it up too.

If I choose to fly any ship on the server I'll do so, with the proper ID, and without permission from any faction.

[Eppy]

And your life is about to become a living hell for it, mate. Sorry, but that's our job.

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Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen

Which Dreadnought was that?

One of your nine.

[Akumabito]

And your life is about to become a living hell for it, mate. Sorry, but that's our job.

It's not your job, you're not sorry, and my life isn't about to become a living hell.

[Ors]

No, they may, and only may have a right to restrict what is sold in those systems (and even that isn't clear in the rules).
As long as I have a proper tag and ID for the ship it's perfectly legal to fly it on the server.

Also, registration doesn't help. If a guy buys a cap ship (or anything else) for pvp whoring forcing him to register changes that how, exactly?

As far as pvp whoring cap ships, who really cares? I leave my bretonia battleship parkind in space in front of new london so the QC can blow it up, if you want I'll take my unregistered outcast destroyer and meet you so you can blow it up too.

If I choose to fly any ship on the server I'll do so, with the proper ID, and without permission from any faction.

The point of having an OFFICIAL, and i will repeat it, OFFICIAL faction, is the faction's dominion over the said territories of it's ZoI are backed up by the Admins and The Comunity.
Yes, Disco is above all a Comunity, an RPing Comunity, and if you want to take part of that Comunity, you will fall in line with the rules it dictates for it's own protection.
If you find them not suiting for you, please, by all means, find a different server that falls in with your views, and i turely think that if one doesn't find it's place in a comunity, he needs to maybe go look for a different one that is more for his views.

Forcing him to register is forcing him to RP.
And RP is what we are all about here, that and the Comunity.

Now, maybe the best way to fix this situation is move all the BS production to faction gaurd systems in the next version, that way we might solve the problem for good, but instead we are trying to figure out a better way to get thing right again.

I can assure you that after you get all your Big Ships pwnted everytime you undock, you will fly them less and less each time, but we all don't want to go there, we just want to make sure all of the indie cap ship RPs.

And as for "I can fly what i want and i don't care what you say" attitude, well, that brings me to the first point i made.
This is a Comunity, and if you don't fall in line with it and it's rules, you will soon find yourself out of it.

[Akumabito]

Forcing him to register is forcing him to RP.

No it's not. I see a lot of registers that have no RP whatsoever, furthermore the very few examples of on server issues given are not fixed by "I register my capship".

Also you seem to forget that the community is larger than a few faction leaders, it's a community of hundreds, hundreds that didn't join the faction but still RP on the server.

You need to think about the whole community and not just yourselves for a change. I don't need your permission to be a legal, active server player in what ever role I choose to play.