I might say lets see where this goes. It's good to see that there are some trials for new concepts. If it won't result into something good it can be removed again.
@"Anton Okunev" Don't forget that such things like RP justified pob defense still continues. Tbh in regards of the Consensus Multplex we just failed in organizing the defense. The Collective did an awesome job in bringing up 8-10 AI Cruisers over that long period. Sending vessel by vessel like a water drop into an ocean of AI Cruisers was just a terrible defense organization.
Okay, i'm sorry for overreact, and feel need to clarify my position. I not think zoners should not be militant, i'm think just Bering no need more activity. Seriously, liberty really need more?
PoB just example, where all wanting PvP for zoners could've get their pew. Same for 11.5 and for Dabadoru event, where all who wanted could've use their line about protection to pew with core. But for some reasons, we need yet more near of Liberty. This is what pissed me. Tarrafal was mistake from beginning.
Upd: This not mean, i will not help make it better, but this all..arrrgh. One big mistake. And about Liberty. More Liberty. MORE, i'm dont tasted it fully yet.
An oversight with the Zoner Militia techcell has been fixed. You have until the next reset or server restart before the EW techcell is removed from the ID.
(05-09-2018, 10:07 AM)Anton Okunev Wrote: Okay, i'm sorry for overreact, and feel need to clarify my position. I not think zoners should not be militant, i'm think just Bering no need more activity. Seriously, liberty really need more?
PoB just example, where all wanting PvP for zoners could've get their pew. Same for 11.5 and for Dabadoru event, where all who wanted could've use their line about protection to pew with core. But for some reasons, we need yet more near of Liberty. This is what pissed me. Tarrafal was mistake from beginning.
Upd: This not mean, i will not help make it better, but this all..arrrgh. One big mistake. And about Liberty. More Liberty. MORE, i'm dont tasted it fully yet.
Why do you think this is just about Liberty? Everything what is happening in Bering can be used for activity by both Liberty and Rheinland because the system is part of ZOI of all lawfuls and majority of unlawfuls from both houses.
(05-10-2018, 11:52 AM)Laura C. Wrote: Why do you think this is just about Liberty? Everything what is happening in Bering can be used for activity by both Liberty and Rheinland because the system is part of ZOI of all lawfuls and majority of unlawfuls from both houses.
Because inRP rheinland lawfuls use it for weakening Liberty. Because ooRP UN more fight with Liberty Lawfuls. Because ooRP RM not log either with ZM either without them.
I would be very glad hear, if it will help Rheinland. But... Bering still more about Liberty thing. Even if UN Rheinland faction, their activity in Bering more about Liberty and Separatists.
(05-10-2018, 11:52 AM)Laura C. Wrote: Why do you think this is just about Liberty? Everything what is happening in Bering can be used for activity by both Liberty and Rheinland because the system is part of ZOI of all lawfuls and majority of unlawfuls from both houses.
Because inRP rheinland lawfuls use it for weakening Liberty. Because ooRP UN more fight with Liberty Lawfuls. Because ooRP RM not log either with ZM either without them.
I would be very glad hear, if it will help Rheinland. But... Bering still more about Liberty thing. Even if UN Rheinland faction, their activity in Bering more about Liberty and Separatists.
It´s not fault of server staff that Rheinland lawfuls do not act in Bering more despite they definitely could (and thus UN fight more with Liberty lawfuls because they are simply more active in the area). They created opportunity, it´s up to players how they will use it.
Also there is no approved plan for "weaking Liberty" inRP, maybe BDM has that agenda because of some ties with Separatists and dislike of Liberty (but that still does not stop them from shooting UN), but technically RM still can go there and shoot UN and RFP can take their part too occasionally.
As im said, i will be very glad see more RM. But dont understand how Zoners Militant will help, how their influence should change things. Just..dont see that.
RM already have agendas in wiping of alster movement, and RFP have headache because Bering obviously become in smuggler paradise. But..for why there zoners, oh no, their great help of 3.5 Q-Ships and 100 peoples matter inRP, of course.
I think it'd be helpful to not try to contantly make a big deal out of it. Looking at the involved groups, it is a tiny skirmish of a bunch of loud people. The Unioners aren't that big of a group. Battlegroup Harmony isn't that big of a group. Battlegroup Tarrafal isn't that big of a group. Freeport 2 is not that big either. For the Rheinlanders, it's more of a Hinterhofprügelei and less of an outright war scenario in Bering.
I think you have a wrong understanding of the intention of this. It is to proceed with the story of Bering, not to proceed with the mod in general or with the general storyline. This is merely a tiny thing. And it constantly gets pushed by people either by memes or public comms of insult exchanges and threats. And more memes.
(05-10-2018, 12:31 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: I think it'd be helpful to not try to contantly make a big deal out of it. Looking at the involved groups, it is a tiny skirmish of a bunch of loud people. The Unioners aren't that big of a group. Battlegroup Harmony isn't that big of a group. Battlegroup Tarrafal isn't that big of a group. Freeport 2 is not that big either. For the Rheinlanders, it's more of a Hinterhofprügelei and less of an outright war scenario in Bering.
I think you have a wrong understanding of the intention of this. It is to proceed with the story of Bering, not to proceed with the mod in general or with the general storyline. This is merely a tiny thing. And it constantly gets pushed by people either by memes or public comms of insult exchanges and threats. And more memes.
When you show from this point, all this looks much better. So i'm admit my mistakes and become silent here.
(05-10-2018, 12:31 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Looking at the involved groups, it is a tiny skirmish of a bunch of loud people. The Unioners aren't that big of a group. Battlegroup Harmony isn't that big of a group. Battlegroup Tarrafal isn't that big of a group. Freeport 2 is not that big either.
Can we change the name of the ID to Tarrafal Militia or Battlegroup Tarrafal then?
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