(05-10-2018, 10:35 PM)Felipe Wrote: You pretending you didnt knew i wasnt around 2 months ago? i know you hate Samura, wanted it gone, and prolly mad it had 3days on last month while your trading try died, including your pob, but. Yes, i havent saw the date.
Dont worry tho, Samura will be around, has enough players for it. Different of many others who died, this one even without no one leading kept activity, sure sign it deserve the effort we put onto it.
And as far i can see in chats, no, he asked no one about.
What? I didn't hate Samura, I actually started RP with Owen and tried to talk to him about carrying Samura on. I never hated any faction. I saw this the moment it was posted so I don't understand what you are trying to say there. Also "while your trading try died, including your pob," It was never mine, it was my idea and I put money into it but I always had someone else running the base and operations and I wasn't concerned about its loss at all, in fact out of the people who did care about it none of them were actually BD|.
(05-10-2018, 11:29 PM)Mephistoles Wrote: Oh man, all this over a thread that was dormant for months. Just let the guy make his Samura faction if he wants.
(05-10-2018, 11:29 PM)Mephistoles Wrote: Oh man, all this over a thread that was dormant for months. Just let the guy make his Samura faction if he wants.
Problem is not him making his Samura faction, the problem is hijacking the corpse of an official faction that was specifically stated to be left for dead, and run with it with only "active hours" to show as merit.
Soon expect the leadership will be passed onto those who claim to be running it, and this thread invisied, making it seem it was a smooth transition and Samura was never inactive or rp dead. Just like it has been done to Kishiro years ago.
(05-10-2018, 11:29 PM)Mephistoles Wrote: Oh man, all this over a thread that was dormant for months. Just let the guy make his Samura faction if he wants.
Problem is not him making his Samura faction, the problem is hijacking the corpse of an official faction that was specifically stated to be left for dead, and run with it.
Soon expect the leadership will be passed onto those who claim to be running it, and this thread invisied, making it seem it was a smooth transition and Samura was never inactive or rp dead. Just like they did to Kishiro years ago.
(05-10-2018, 11:29 PM)Mephistoles Wrote: Oh man, all this over a thread that was dormant for months. Just let the guy make his Samura faction if he wants.
Problem is not him making his Samura faction, the problem is hijacking the corpse of an official faction that was specifically stated to be left for dead, and run with it.
Soon expect the leadership will be passed onto those who claim to be running it, and this thread invisied, making it seem it was a smooth transition and Samura was never inactive or rp dead. Just like they did to Kishiro years ago.
I agree, this would be bad.
I don't see the issue. I don't believe the community, with its small playerbase, can afford to adopt the state of "Keep factions dead because their previous leader said he wanted it dead." From what I understood, the faction will be handled by a group of Samura| members and new non-Samura members, and they're content and satisfied with it.
(05-10-2018, 09:51 PM)Silverlight Wrote: Felipe, this announcement was made 02-28-2018 just over 2 months ago. It's kinda too late and if its members actually cared about playing Samura| (including you) They would have noticed this disbandment thread 2 months ago.
I don't think this is late.
Owen has left the leadership of Samura|-
The rest Samura|- member are still active.
Me and Pals are most active in here.
We have also contacted admins regarding Samura|- official leadership.
Personally i have informed that, above matter are under discussion.
(05-10-2018, 11:06 PM)WPeregrine Wrote: Samura was disbanded at the point of the post. No one commented, contested, or offered alternative to its demise. Heck, the post is the outcome of that apathy.
It matters not that pals still runs the samura pobs in Nagano, or that some powertraders still plow through the space many hours a month on Samura| vessels. The faction died, and any internal communication or coordination died at that point.
That the moderators of the forum ignored the declaration and let Samura "officialdom" linger is not a sign that there is hope for the faction, is just Negligence. (BTW, you are also ignoring the Hogosha Association on the same "official" issue).
There is nothing, and no one of the old Samura leaders and active players that warrants a revival. The link has been severed.
Make a New Samura. That is what the server deserves.
I am totally disagreed with you. I am a old Samura|- member and i want revival.
Several PM's have been send to admin regarding revival of Samura|-
This is something for all of your information that we are getting new application also for Samura|-
Samura|- will not die or it will be disbanded. Samura|- will rise again.
Ok seeing what is said over night while i slept this post is o old one....
2months ago i was not even around, came back like a week ago
I did check up on skype samura channel daily and not once i seen they talk about disbanding anything in there.
At this point i have multiple skype channels that do not work. Have not had a skype message in weeks.
I do hope its not to late and there wil be reconsidderation about this matter
Back before my leave me and kruger made a big push to get this faction back on track and it can not be that all that effort is simply wasted like this...
Also if owen had trouble contacting members he could have found a other way of comunications, hell even a forum post saying he could not reach us would be better then this dismemberment notice
Well... Said my thing, hope its not to late and we are still able to get it back on track again.
Friendly regards from,
Erik Kieber
(02-28-2018, 11:35 AM)Owen Wrote: Samura Heavy Industries will disband unless there is an objection from within the ranks or someone willing to take over. After spending weeks trying to get in contact with the members I have had no response and the activity of this faction has absolutely slumped. I don't like whipping dead horses. If Shura wishes to acquire Samura's assets, please contact me, otherwise they will be given to the Kusari Government.
I was inactive for a long for my educational purpose and when i have returned and saw above post, i have tried to contact Owen, who was the Samura|- leader but unfortunately Owen didn't replied.
Become an exiting Samura|- leader Owen himself saying Samura Heavy Industries will disband unless others existing samura member take over leadership. --- This something unpleasant.
Owen has got that leadership after several discussion in Skype(Samura|- official channel) and if he is willing to leave the leadership then he can PM or Post regarding that but saying Disband a official faction in open forum is not a virtue of a good leader.
However Samura|- will rise again and We will found a Good and active leader again.
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