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Offline Praetyre
06-18-2008, 03:25 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-18-2008, 03:26 AM by Praetyre.)
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' Wrote:It isn't against the server rules to roleplay an LSF officer who is independent playerfaction-wise and takes no orders from your director.

Stop making strawman arguments. I never appealed to the server rules

' Wrote:It's not my responsibility to petition the admins. If you open fire on me, whose side do you think the admins will take? I'll do my RP and follow the server rules. Hopefully you can too.

I never said it was, it was just a suggestion for you if you object to LSF policy. I'm not an LSF member, in any case.

' Wrote:I'm not suggesting a ban on "unilateral faction names," but this faction post, while it is approved by the admins, takes second place behind server rules. Until players who possess a LSF ID are obligated by rules to obey the Director, I'm not obeying the Director.

Don't like it? Shoot me as I try to enter Alaska next time.

Well, you would be out of roleplay, in my opinion, to disobey the leader of your own organisation, but that would be an appeal to server rules, so I'll leave it there. It is not against server rules, but it is contrary to common sense.

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Offline Asymptotic
06-18-2008, 03:26 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-18-2008, 03:27 AM by Asymptotic.)
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I never joined the LSF player faction. He's not the leader of my organization.

PS "Stop making strawman arguments" can be interpreted as a strawman.
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Offline Walker
06-18-2008, 03:26 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-18-2008, 03:28 AM by Walker.)
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Thing is Asymptotic; Copeland generally leaves the Indie LSF alone... So you don't have to worry about that BUT RP wise he is the real leader of the LSF... LSF as a whole

THE Liberty Security Force; There is none of this Player Faction stuff...

COPELAND generally leaves you alone... And that is not what this arguments about its the fact that HE is the Leader, NOT That you should obey him...

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[8/17/2008 5:56:46 PM] Aaron (Boss/Jurgen) says: Can't bring myself to say it... Looks like you get the LABC, I've seen what you can do in one
Walker (Albert Wint): I can has win? --- Epyon the Bored: You can haz win. --- [1:18:00 PM] Chris (Niezck) says: I love you <3
[5:55:53 PM] Raisu says: Walker pwned both Battleships(LNS-Texas LNS-Arizona) - [5:55:57 PM] Raisu says: in a cruiser
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[9:08:25 AM] Gurjiv (Frozen) says: I hope someone gives you AIDs.
[7:15:17 PM] Dylan (Ximen) says: Walker... you have no idea how much fail you bring into this world...
[8:05:08 AM] Ross (SevereTrinity) says: Screw you for making me install FL again
[10:51Big GrinIE AM] Epyon the Bored says: My god if I ever meet you I am going to strangle you.
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Offline Praetyre
06-18-2008, 03:29 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-18-2008, 03:33 AM by Praetyre.)
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' Wrote:I never joined the LSF player faction. He's not the leader of my organization.

He is, in RP, the Director of the Liberty Security Force. Your character, if he/she is an agent of the Liberty Security Force, joined the Liberty Security Force, quite obviously.

This is according to common sense, not server rules. I'm not recommending you be sanctioned.

And also, despite my bolded, double insistence with no prior statements of appealing to server rules, you still continued to make such an argument. That makes it a strawman.

Thank you, Walker.

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Offline Walker
06-18-2008, 03:31 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-18-2008, 03:31 AM by Walker.)
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Meanwhile... Enough of this; This flame war has strayed far to off topic.

Back to Z21.

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[8/17/2008 5:56:46 PM] Aaron (Boss/Jurgen) says: Can't bring myself to say it... Looks like you get the LABC, I've seen what you can do in one
Walker (Albert Wint): I can has win? --- Epyon the Bored: You can haz win. --- [1:18:00 PM] Chris (Niezck) says: I love you <3
[5:55:53 PM] Raisu says: Walker pwned both Battleships(LNS-Texas LNS-Arizona) - [5:55:57 PM] Raisu says: in a cruiser
Tiberius Walker, spreading mayhem, destruction, and Spamming Flood since Oct 22 2008 ™
[9:08:25 AM] Gurjiv (Frozen) says: I hope someone gives you AIDs.
[7:15:17 PM] Dylan (Ximen) says: Walker... you have no idea how much fail you bring into this world...
[8:05:08 AM] Ross (SevereTrinity) says: Screw you for making me install FL again
[10:51Big GrinIE AM] Epyon the Bored says: My god if I ever meet you I am going to strangle you.
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Offline sn!p3r
06-18-2008, 03:31 AM,
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I get made out to be some kind of evil jack ass, You know what.. Do what you want, go where you please. See if i really do care, We ( SA, and =LSF=) simply wanted to open up some RP opportunities that zone 21 held.

But of course, some whiny ignorant players do not like it, well boo hoo. Im sick of the flames. Maybe the whole roleplaying zone 21 is a bad idea, ill talk with SA high command to see that we just let it back as the way it was.

Tired of being bashed around here
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Offline Asymptotic
06-18-2008, 03:32 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-18-2008, 03:34 AM by Asymptotic.)
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Clarification: In common sense/roleplay, my character has been employed by the LSF to investigate recent Nomad activity, collect technology, facilitate safe, risk-free analysis, and use it for Liberty's gain.

I'm not whining. I don't like when players feel they can disregard an admin's official word on the authority of player factions and the autonomy of independents.
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Offline Walker
06-18-2008, 03:35 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-18-2008, 03:38 AM by Walker.)
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Well what would you generally see in Real Life happening?

"This is LSF Agent Cole.Benford on special LSF Mission assignment to investigate Nomad Activity in Zone-21 and collect Nomadic Technology. In Order to use it for Liberty's Gain. I am requesting to Enter Zone-21"

Would have been more... Realistic I guess.
Meanwhile to whoever started the Copeland thing; Ima firing mah laz0r!

Tiberius Walker, putting flames out and being awesome since Apr 13 2008 ™
[8/17/2008 5:56:46 PM] Aaron (Boss/Jurgen) says: Can't bring myself to say it... Looks like you get the LABC, I've seen what you can do in one
Walker (Albert Wint): I can has win? --- Epyon the Bored: You can haz win. --- [1:18:00 PM] Chris (Niezck) says: I love you <3
[5:55:53 PM] Raisu says: Walker pwned both Battleships(LNS-Texas LNS-Arizona) - [5:55:57 PM] Raisu says: in a cruiser
Tiberius Walker, spreading mayhem, destruction, and Spamming Flood since Oct 22 2008 ™
[9:08:25 AM] Gurjiv (Frozen) says: I hope someone gives you AIDs.
[7:15:17 PM] Dylan (Ximen) says: Walker... you have no idea how much fail you bring into this world...
[8:05:08 AM] Ross (SevereTrinity) says: Screw you for making me install FL again
[10:51Big GrinIE AM] Epyon the Bored says: My god if I ever meet you I am going to strangle you.
Tiberius Walker, being better then you since April 30, 2009 ™
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Offline Asymptotic
06-18-2008, 03:40 AM,
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I actually said something quite like that over encrypted comms the other day and was denied.

Just to support my position some more I'm going to quote some server rules.

4.3 Wrote:Factions are free to restrict or not restrict access to their home systems and tax players who enter home system. Access to systems that surround home system must not be restricted unless there's a war with another faction.
6.5 Wrote:Buying an ID does not automatically mean that player becomes part of appropriate player faction.
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Offline stone
06-18-2008, 03:41 AM,
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' Wrote:I get made out to be some kind of evil jack ass, You know what.. Do what you want, go where you please. See if i really do care, We ( SA, and =LSF=) simply wanted to open up some RP opportunities that zone 21 held.

But of course, some whiny ignorant players do not like it, well boo hoo. Im sick of the flames. Maybe the whole roleplaying zone 21 is a bad idea, ill talk with SA high command to see that we just let it back as the way it was.

Tired of being bashed around here


Im not saying your a jackass and im sorry if i came across that way. and its not a bad idea to roleplay zone 21 with the players that join the =LSF= or any outsider that decides to brake your law hell i do it just so i can RP with you guys had a nice encouter with MikeEdwards the other day we had some fun or at least I did even know he blew my ass up.. but he is a Indi let him have his own RP thats all. Belive me most people would rather have a whole group of people to RP and follow rules with, hell I'm one of them.

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