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[Need More Input] [Replacement Vote] Horizontal Vanilla/Ageira Trade Lanes

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Poll: Vanilla Trade Lanes: Make horizontal or leave vertical?
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Horizontal
60.14%
83 60.14%
Vertical
39.86%
55 39.86%
Total 138 vote(s) 100%
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Need More Input [Replacement Vote] Horizontal Vanilla/Ageira Trade Lanes
Offline SnakThree
12-07-2018, 06:08 AM,
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(12-07-2018, 12:54 AM)DSE|-CEO Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 05:04 PM)Oxford Institute Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 04:30 PM)Capt. Henry Morgan Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 04:25 PM)Oxford Institute Wrote: but I am sure that they would do whatever the client asks/pays for

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Ageira has (or had) a monopoly, and that gives them a LOT of power to dictate terms to their customers. I imagine it went something like this:

BretGov: The lanes are nice, but can we make them left-handed to match the driving direction on our planets?
Ageira: No, they're fine as they are.
BretGov: But, we're paying you billions of credits for this, surely you can take our wishes into account.
Ageira: That's not how it works. If you're unhappy with it, we can always take our business elsewhere.
BretGov: ...
Ageira: That's what we thought. Your right-handed lanes will be up and running shortly.

since Ageira doesn't has the trade lane monopoly anymore this horizontal change can be explained by Ageira trying to meet with costumers requests, and still make a quick easy buck while maintaining client loyalty, it's just a simple towing and flip some lanes

Bret/Kus-Gov: oh I see you are doing maintenance to the trade lanes, what about change them to left-handed lanes like we originally asked for? I heard Rhein is getting some cool new lanes...
Ageira: sure sure just keep that maintenance and new lanes contract alive for some more years and we flip/tow change them now

altough Bretonia would never choose Gallia trade lane with the current situation

but to be honest, the way that is a less pain to devs is the best way

=DSE- is already RP-ing a switch to horizontal in Poole where it has set up base to build the TL's from Caernavfon to Plymouth. Tried to get a Licence from EFL but they haven't even replied, but fortunately =DSE- has already reversed engineered the EFL horizontal trade lanes and using genuine Ageira technology can deliver. All it requires is to fit-out Scrap Palace to manufature the Horizontal trade lanes.

Our Liberty Mastadon's get stuck a lot on the vertical TL's but have not once done so on the Horizontal. Plus the same entry (left) each time cuts down on productivity wastage. Big ships line up way better as the entrances are far bigger. I don't think many Battleships will find them a curse like the vertical ones.

Cheers!

Can you just stop ruining DSE?

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Offline Beauenheim
12-07-2018, 06:46 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-07-2018, 06:48 AM by Beauenheim.)
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Big fan of the horizontal! I would recommend we keep the model more vanilla rather than closer to the Gallic one though.

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Offline DSE|=
12-07-2018, 07:11 AM,
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(12-07-2018, 06:08 AM)SnakThree Wrote: Can you just stop ruining DSE?

Can you stop trying to be a control freak by dictating what should happen when it hasn't got anything to do with your RP?

The Gallic trade lane style is superior for a number of player benefit reasons. Why should Liberty and her allies settle for an outdated and inefficient technology that should have been dumped at the same time as the outdated Starflyer. Get a skin that isn't Gallia's but keep the features that are useful.
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Offline Inferno
12-07-2018, 07:15 AM,
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Do I have to stay up to make sure everyone behaves?

I don't have much to contribute to the actual topic. I guess it'd be nice.
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Offline SnakThree
12-07-2018, 07:44 AM,
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(12-07-2018, 07:11 AM)DSE|-CEO Wrote:
(12-07-2018, 06:08 AM)SnakThree Wrote: Can you just stop ruining DSE?

Can you stop trying to be a control freak by dictating what should happen when it hasn't got anything to do with your RP?

The Gallic trade lane style is superior for a number of player benefit reasons. Why should Liberty and her allies settle for an outdated and inefficient technology that should have been dumped at the same time as the outdated Starflyer. Get a skin that isn't Gallia's but keep the features that are useful.
You claiming to reverse-engineering EFL tech is powergaming.

If the change that we are voting for is implemented, it will retcon the inexistant lore that Trade Lanes are vertical. I sent you the message where I said that the devs are not taking vertical lanes to be lore, but you ignored it because I am with "Probation" status.

Can you just please act like normal DSE would?

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Offline DSE|=
12-07-2018, 07:52 AM,
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(12-07-2018, 07:44 AM)SnakThree Wrote: Can you just stop ruining DSE?

Can you stop trying to be a control freak by dictating what should happen when it hasn't got anything to do with your RP?

The Gallic trade lane style is superior for a number of player benefit reasons. Why should Liberty and her allies settle for an outdated and inefficient technology that should have been dumped at the same time as the outdated Starflyer. Get a skin that isn't Gallia's but keep the features that are useful.
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You claiming to reverse-engineering EFL tech is powergaming.

If the change that we are voting for is implemented, it will retcon the inexistant lore that Trade Lanes are vertical. I sent you the message where I said that the devs are not taking vertical lanes to be lore, but you ignored it because I am with "Probation" status.

Can you just please act like normal DSE would?
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I don't give a bulls roar about what you think or claim. Sending me those PM's is what a reasonable person would call a form of intentional harassment bordering on intimidation - given the content.

Like I said... mind your own business.
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Offline Cursetantine
12-07-2018, 08:37 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-07-2018, 08:37 AM by Cursetantine.)
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Interstellar societies making such mistakes make no sense in the first place though. In the 500 600 years they have been implementing vertical tradelanes at least someone would think "this is wrong"

ALG #1
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Offline Rantari
12-07-2018, 09:48 AM,
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It’s not broken, don’t fix it. I’m sure you can all find a better use of your time (happy)

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Offline Laura C.
12-07-2018, 11:36 AM,
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(12-07-2018, 09:48 AM)Rantari Wrote: It’s not broken, don’t fix it. I’m sure you can all find a better use of your time (happy)

They are broken though. Especially for automatic docking of big ships.

On a ragebreak. Or ragequit. Time will tell.
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Offline evanz
12-07-2018, 12:11 PM,
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I like the idea of them being horizontal, as we fly on a flat 2d plane, it kind of makes sense we see ships on the same plane going past…or is that what the original makers wanted to avoid?
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