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(05-22-2019, 11:23 PM)Mr.Cardaminum Wrote: Would kindly request proofs. Don't remember any engagements with no lines dropped but perhaps my memory fails me.
On behalf of QC I apologize if that encounter was considered as lacking RP for engagement.
However, in our defence, I should say that aforementioned ship approached our party while our snub was already duelling the ally of the ship in question. Because of already ongoing fight, it was assumed that the ship in question, which was clearly approaching us, came to reinforce the enemy snub. In that regard, we dropped one line for interception as the continuation of already ongoing fight. If that is not sufficient in the middle of a fight then I do not understand clearly the rule about two lines to start the fight. We shall in the future try to abstain from such practice since the assumption of ongoing fight, apparently, is not clearly understandable to all parties involved. I would also rather avoid further interaction with the party rival involved.
We clearly would not mind you shooting the cruiser if you were all engaged, and the cruiser approached with hostile intent (Dropping engagement lines, attacking). But that was not the case. There was several of you, one of them. You even admit that one of your ships was duelling it, which means the others were watching. And you had no time to write 2 lines each while sitting aside and watching? The cruiser approached, didn't even have time to RP. You dropped one line and attacked as soon he came into range. We definitely expect more than that.
What can be RPed with a hostile Navy ship approaching, I wonder? In most cases whether games or real life, hostile navy are engaged without warning. Given the limitations of the game and the commonly accepted rules, we are to drop 2 simple lines clearly indicating our engaging to begin fight, but to expect more than that, to my mind, is not the case - my imagination as to what to say the hostile navy is either RP offences (that quickly degrade to predictable and boring cliche phrases) or basically saying "shoot".
As I said, on behalf of QC I am sorry that such behaviour caused a negative reaction of the other side. As far as I remembered, we just scared off the cruiser in question and it did not even sustain damage (my memory might be failing me as it happened quite a while ago). I pledge to refrain from such behaviour of me or other members of QC in the future, but I definitely will not encourage some cringy lengthy RP with hostile Navy for sure.
I hope, as the voices of both sides have been sounded, the matter is settled. We in QC have learnt a lesson from it, but I also hope the other side has been familiarised with our point of view.
(05-24-2019, 09:37 AM)Mr.Cardaminum Wrote: Given the limitations of the game and the commonly accepted rules, we are to drop 2 simple lines clearly indicating our engaging to begin fight
Exactly. Now, look at the evidence we provided and tell me how many of you did it? Bormida, although 2 lines, they were rather short. Everyone else was silent. If you assume roleplaying on behalf of the group is acceptable, I will tell you that it is not. Every individual is supposed to roleplay prior to engagement.
(05-24-2019, 09:37 AM)Mr.Cardaminum Wrote: Given the limitations of the game and the commonly accepted rules, we are to drop 2 simple lines clearly indicating our engaging to begin fight
Exactly. Now, look at the evidence we provided and tell me how many of you did it? Bormida, although 2 lines, they were rather short. Everyone else was silent. If you assume roleplaying on behalf of the group is acceptable, I will tell you that it is not. Every individual is supposed to roleplay prior to engagement.
That is a shame. If a fleet commander gives command, it should be obvious even to the most obscure minds that the order compels the rest to engage. Sad day for logic. But I shall comply, of course.
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