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Offline Kusari Uchugun
06-06-2019, 10:27 AM,
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I'm not aware of any such permission. Changing the laws when required is how it was always done here.

Could you please point me to the thread where the rules regarding house laws are defined? I could not find anything in the server rules or the stickies of the faction rules subforum.

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Offline Laura C.
06-06-2019, 10:46 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-06-2019, 10:54 AM by Laura C..)
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I am not sure if I can find thread where it was mentioned/announced, but basically the main thread with all the house and other organization laws was locked after certain incident when faction changed their laws in an abusive way, and since then all govs have to update them through requests to the staff (I am person doing it on behalf of RheinGov whole time) which is supposed to check and approve changes. Reason why you could not notice that is that Kusari is the only house which does not have laws in that thread, only redirecting link in the OP.

EDIT: Here is the admin announcement.

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Offline Kusari Uchugun
06-06-2019, 10:59 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-06-2019, 11:10 AM by Kusari Uchugun.)
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What a privileged position to be in...

I do think this is a bad way to handle this issue however. Requiring the staff to look through all law changes creates a lot of unnecessary work as I believe that the vast majority of law changes will just be approved without a problem.

Do you remember what the actual abusive change was?

Edit:
Thank you for finding that post. It really should have been linked in the actual laws of sirius thread.
I do not quite understand the reasoning though. Faction ID should always take priority over house laws and any law that is not in line with the ID should simply be invalid and factions sanctioned for trying to enforce them. This way abusive laws simply get reported by the affected players and the staff doesn't need to check every single change.
Maybe force factions to have a changelist for their laws though.

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Offline Laura C.
06-06-2019, 11:18 AM,
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(06-06-2019, 10:59 AM)Kusari Kaigun Wrote: What a privileged position to be in...

I guess it´s because no one from the staff noticed this so far. Technically it´s quite a double standard and going around restriction, everyone could do the same thing and just do not bother with staff approval.

(06-06-2019, 10:59 AM)Kusari Kaigun Wrote: I do think this is a bad way to handle this issue however. Requiring the staff to look through all law changes creates a lot of unnecessary work as I believe that the vast majority of law changes will just be approved without a problem.

It was pointed out several times by me and some other people, but staff prefer to keep it this way. Nothing we can do about it.

(06-06-2019, 10:59 AM)Kusari Kaigun Wrote: Do you remember what the actual abusive change was?

I think it was situation when faction enforced something/shot somebody allegedly because of their laws violation, but it was not true, so they changed their laws accordingly after the situation happened to make their action justified. But it´s long time so I don´t recall exact details. Also, admins claimed in that announcement that there was more questionable law changes.

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Offline Yaoquizque
06-07-2019, 06:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-07-2019, 06:40 PM by Yaoquizque.)
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I get that "you're privileged while we never have been" feeling, although we never specifically asked for it.
Though, I hope you will concede Kugov has always acted responsibly regarding that matter. People never ninja edited laws for their benefit; there is a mandatory change-log for any legislation alteration.

If you really need this to be admin locked for fairness sake then O.K.

By the way, this feedback thread is about Kusari laws. Is there loopholes you would like to discuss?

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Offline xiphos
06-10-2019, 01:29 PM,
#146
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(06-07-2019, 06:39 PM)Yaoquizque Wrote: By the way, this feedback thread is about Kusari laws. Is there loopholes you would like to discuss?


Mentioned/suggested (safe for the KPT issue in section 1-4 iirc) in the KNF discord channel 5 months ago, again 3 months ago and finally here in the Feedback thread 4 days ago:


(06-06-2019, 09:51 AM)xiphos Wrote: The following sections are outdated or need some fixes:

Section 1-2:

Hiroshima info can be removed.


Section 1-3:

"Okinawa (From Hiroshima Gate to Isehara Refinery)". This needs to be changed to Okinawa (From Honshu Gate to Isehara Refinery)


Section 1-4:

The Civil war is over since a while now. The Kempeitai needs to be re-added there.


Section 6-1:

The Mandalorian Mercenaries are dead since ages. They can go i guess.


Section 6-2:

The Sirius Revolutionary Front is dead since ages. They can go i guess.

The Colonial Remnants are the Crayter Republic "now".


Section 8-5:

"...an act of war against the Kusari Republic,...". Kusari is an Empire again? Needs to be fixed


Section 8-9:

Hiroshima info can be removed.

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Offline WesternPeregrine
06-10-2019, 01:37 PM,
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Thanks, I'll check upon those and see if they are implemented.

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Offline LCU-2001
12-25-2019, 08:40 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-25-2019, 05:59 PM by LCU-2001.)
#148
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Greetings!

I'm looking for a response on this:
https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...pid2126984

I don't know who is controlling the Kusari Kaigun, that's why I posted here. Thank you very much.

PS
Thanks for the reply!
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Offline Empire of Kusari
01-05-2020, 11:10 AM,
#149
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Reply has been provided. Thank you for bringing it to attention.

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