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Offline Kalhmera
02-13-2020, 08:08 AM,
#11
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I mean I dont like accusing people of any wrong doing but this does feel like meat gaming. The leader of HF was in Libgov and knew about its location and transfer from Citizen to Law Enforcement. Since the announcement wasnt public it dosent make sense for HF to attack a DSE IFFed base. Not that I care because the base is quite literally abandoned. have fun I guess.

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Offline Spectre
02-13-2020, 04:55 PM,
#12
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We're going to discuss it, but I myself wasn't actually aware the change was made behind closed doors.
Expect a change sometime today.

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Offline Shiki
02-13-2020, 05:05 PM,
#13
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Hellfire legion has made me an alcoholic.

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Offline Spectre
02-13-2020, 05:52 PM,
#14
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(02-13-2020, 05:05 PM)Shiki Wrote: Hellfire legion has made me an alcoholic.
Good to know.

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Offline SnakThree
02-14-2020, 05:59 AM,
#15
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This [HF] is Hone v2. Congratulations on reaching all time low.

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Offline Paddy.
02-14-2020, 07:33 AM,
#16
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(02-13-2020, 08:03 AM)Jayce Wrote: As far as I am aware, the transfer of the offending POB from DSE to LPI was not made public in any way. The only report was to the Government of the Republic of the House of Liberty.

Why is a revolutionary faction, who would ostensibly be interested in popular backing from the citizens of Liberty, actively assault a station that would house working members of said citizenry? to farm activity


It was put up for sale. [X]

It was a DSE base so I cannot fathom the intellectual morass that makes a Hellfire Legion do such a dumb thing. It smacks of "Just doing it for the giggles" dumb stuff we have had in the past.
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Offline Paddy.
02-14-2020, 07:39 AM,
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(02-13-2020, 08:08 AM)Kalhmera Wrote: Since the announcement wasnt public it dosent make sense for HF to attack a DSE IFFed base. Not that I care because the base is quite literally abandoned. have fun I guess.

I am disappointed that it was left to rot. Nothing was done to it. No supplies, no nothing. I had asked the purchaser to return it if they didn't need it.

I doubt if the mighty LibGov even sent scout out to defend it. Probably had no crew, no fuels, no repair commodities etc. In support I had placed 2x DSE Supertransports ready to haul supplies and a LNS Cap ship was on site ready to help defend.

NOTHING: No comms, no organised response. I am going to suggest this might have been a political decision.
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Offline Spectre
02-14-2020, 07:59 AM,
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Thinking on it for a bit, there wasn't really any way to know whose base it was since we couldn't dock on it. While the Legion has different standards, it's more or less the same approach the Navy would take had they found a PoB that refused them access as well, regardless of the actual IFF.

Also, I was told that the IFF wasn't changed when it realistically should have been, in this case due to the GMs. With a DSE IFF, which is set to neutral no-dock to the Legion ID, the station really wasn't show its true colors either, and should have been red if it had been showing off the LPI IFF it was supposed to have. This is all assuming it wasn't on defmode 4 or something, and I'm not pointing blame. Still, I don't think it would've been entirely outside of the realm of possibility.

(02-14-2020, 07:33 AM)Paddy. Wrote: It was put up for sale. [X]
As far as I can tell, the sale was made ooRPly, which I can't in good grace treat as a valid reason for [HF] to know about the base's ownership inRPly. If there's a thread I'm missing, feel free to point it out, but otherwise I just feel like it really should be treated as an unknown owner case, which is well within reason to treat the base as potentially hostile.

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A plurality is not a majority, and a majority is not everybody.

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Offline Jayce
02-14-2020, 08:01 AM,
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(02-14-2020, 07:33 AM)Paddy. Wrote:
(02-13-2020, 08:03 AM)Jayce Wrote: As far as I am aware, the transfer of the offending POB from DSE to LPI was not made public in any way. The only report was to the Government of the Republic of the House of Liberty.

Why is a revolutionary faction, who would ostensibly be interested in popular backing from the citizens of Liberty, actively assault a station that would house working members of said citizenry? to farm activity


It was put up for sale. [X]

It was a DSE base so I cannot fathom the intellectual morass that makes a Hellfire Legion do such a dumb thing. It smacks of "Just doing it for the giggles" dumb stuff we have had in the past.

This is not a roleplay post.

(02-14-2020, 07:39 AM)Paddy. Wrote:
(02-13-2020, 08:08 AM)Kalhmera Wrote: Since the announcement wasnt public it dosent make sense for HF to attack a DSE IFFed base. Not that I care because the base is quite literally abandoned. have fun I guess.

I am disappointed that it was left to rot. Nothing was done to it. No supplies, no nothing. I had asked the purchaser to return it if they didn't need it.

I doubt if the mighty LibGov even sent scout out to defend it. Probably had no crew, no fuels, no repair commodities etc. In support I had placed 2x DSE Supertransports ready to haul supplies and a LNS Cap ship was on site ready to help defend.

NOTHING: No comms, no organised response. I am going to suggest this might have been a political decision.

I'm going to suggest that nobody in Libgov knew anything about what went on with that station. It was out of sight, out of mind, and entirely the responsibility of the purchaser to supply it. It died before ships could even make it to Alberta, due to a lack of fuel and repairs. Please don't place the failure of the purchaser to supply their station on the members of the Government or the lawful playerbase at-large.

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Offline Paddy.
02-14-2020, 08:13 AM,
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I'm going to suggest that nobody in Libgov knew anything about what went on with that station. It was out of sight, out of mind, and entirely the responsibility of the purchaser to supply it. It died before ships could even make it to Alberta, due to a lack of fuel and repairs. Please don't place the failure of the purchaser to supply their station on the members of the Government or the lawful playerbase at-large.
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You serious? It was very evidently taken over by a department of the Liberty Government. There is RP correspondence affirming transfer. LSF were supposed to be responsible and they had a long time to keep the base supplied. The LibGov knew what was going on all right. The siphoned mucho peso's from it.
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