Liberty Police, Inc. Feedback

[NixOlympica]

People acting like corrupt cops were never a thing, people mad that inRP consequences for bad mouthing authority is a thing, people acting like 20mil is worth anything more than a single penny...

good meme

Keep b*tching on the forum about how someone else runs a faction that you don't even care about instead of populating the server, i'm sure it'll all work out in the end.

The problem is when those corrupt cops start threatening your space installations for which you already pay close to billions. Then it goes from "corrupt cop RP" to "yeah this is not fun at all" real fast.

[Egon Bigmemes]

It's not about the money or the corrupt cop thing, it's about you not breaking the law and following very simple orders. Stop for ten seconds to let the officer do their little roleplay scan, or get shat upon for not being able to contain your autism for ten seconds.

Obey the laws, pay your traffic violation fine (wow 20 million!), or don't play in Liberty.

[Lythrilux]

If you're going to play a Lawful, and you want to pull stuff like this ie corrupt cop or lawful evil man you need to be careful. These IDs carry a lot of power. Law lines are essentially a free pass to perform almost any action for any reason. If someone doesn't agree to whatever you're trying to enforce them, consequences can range from money, to being banned from a faction's bases, to being banned from an entire House. Abuse of this is the kind of thing that leads to a Lawful ID getting nerfed. Ie, the GMG ID, Cryer ID to name a few examples.

Granted, law enforcement is slightly more restrictive these days because law edits have to be reviewed before they can be immediately applied (for the very reasons/examples I've described above). But many law posts do have these 'respect' laws and other things that in my personal opinion should be rarely enforced and exist as some RP fluff. At most, should they ever be enforced, it should be with fines like 2 million. It should never be enforced with demands as ridiculous as 20 million.

or don't play in Liberty.

Relating it to my point above, this is a really dumb thing to say. Can we please not get all Lawfuls nerfed again because someone can't control themselves.

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[Jayce]

If you're going to play a Lawful, and you want to pull stuff like this ie corrupt cop or lawful evil man you need to be careful. These IDs carry a lot of power. Law lines are essentially a free pass to perform almost any action for any reason. If someone doesn't agree to whatever you're trying to enforce them, consequences can range from money, to being banned from a faction's bases, to being banned from an entire House. Abuse of this is the kind of thing that leads to a Lawful ID getting nerfed. Ie, the GMG ID, Cryer ID to name a few examples.

Granted, law enforcement is slightly more restrictive these days because law edits have to be reviewed before they can be immediately applied (for the very reasons/examples I've described above). But many law posts do have these 'respect' laws and other things that in my personal opinion should be rarely enforced and exist as some RP fluff. At most, should they ever be enforced, it should be with fines like 2 million. It should never be enforced with demands as ridiculous as 20 million.

or don't play in Liberty.

Relating it to my point above, this is a really dumb thing to say. Can we please not get all Lawfuls nerfed again because someone can't control themselves.

I prefer to enforce them with destruction. It's only a million or so in ammo for the dead person, and I get something worth far, far more than money.

This meme was made by Gallia gang.

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[Egon Bigmemes]

At most, should they ever be enforced, it should be with fines like 2 million.

If you can't afford the fine, don't break the law.

Can we please not get all Lawfuls nerfed again because someone can't control themselves.

Yes, it's fascinating how some people can't stop and let them do their roleplay without going berserk over the consequences when they don't.

Though it's not even Forlorn doing it (past inferno), it's the rest of the people who don't play in Liberty and hate Liberty for imagined slights.

[The Sovereign]

Alright, I've slept, eaten and have time to look at this again. This is basically why I came here. In LPI's own words, the following is said.

Yes Forlon by all intense and purpose is a Law abiding Organization in Liberty and are regarded very highly. But this does not excuse you for breaking the law.

You'll note I have not once asked the fine to be overturned, or complained that it was levied.

Its called role play.

And this is both why I'm not asking for it to be changed and why I'm complaining about the amount.

A group that is held in good regard and believed to be law abiding is being charged 20 million fine for, as far as I'm aware, an exceptionally minor breach, considering that the LPI running this moment, saw the rest of us in Bering, ignored people greeting it and left silently, and then immediately decided to run a cargo scan on another of that group moving to join them. Cool, thats fine for the most part.

Except, since this is going to be the defense against it,

Actions have consequences

Then I'm inclined to point out that they clearly don't as our past actions were thrown out of the window, along with those of the Reaver you can see him ignoring, which has historically claimed a billion dollars in bounties against the Liberty Lawfuls.

If the actions have consequences line is the one chosen to defend the amount in this case, which is fine, then I'd expect actual logical choices to be made. For example, if refusing to stop and swearing is equivalent to four dead ships, then it starts to look ridiculous.

I will leave as a note, that the pilot who didn't stop, was just playing in line with their character, and didn't expect any drama like the past pages has provided.

hough it's not even Forlorn doing it (past inferno),

In regards to this, Inferno sadly hasn't been Forlorn for a while, yes I know I need to update the member list. But in general, the other people are just stating their opinions, which is what feedback is for.

[Egon Bigmemes]

And this is both why I'm not asking for it to be changed and why I'm complaining about the amount.

or your RP man character can go "hey we're sorry for the FUCKY WUCKY, can we do ten million" in response

apologizing is powerful

[The Sovereign]

True, but that would still be ridiculous, considering that when we were ingame and doing what we do, he chose to send a fine instead of talking to us.

[Kalhmera]

True, but that would still be ridiculous, considering that when we were ingame and doing what we do, he chose to send a fine instead of talking to us.

Your boy cruised and took the lane. Very hard to chat when he CM my CDs. Inrp ask for the fine to be reduced and will reduce it. This is getting dumb.

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[TheShooter36]

It is only getting dumb because it is dumb. And I say that as your friendo Kalh. You werent in for such circlejerks before, get your senses back please.

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