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~~E X O D I T E~~ · (This post was last modified: 05-26-2020, 03:15 AM by E X O D I T E.)

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Type: Ship Stats
Bug: The Passenger Liner arbitrarily decides to go through an explosion fuse upon taking a certain amount of damage.
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The Oasis Passenger Liner will randomly decide to explode regardless of actual hull left on a ship if a component takes enough damage. However, the damage taken seems to be inconsistent, sometimes I will tank fire for like 5 minutes, and sometimes I take a couple shots from a station turret and go boom.

shiparch data block

Code:
[Ship]

ids_name = 237036

ids_info = 500045

ids_info1 = 504421

ids_info2 = 458753

ids_info3 = 500015

ship_class = 10

nickname = dsy_liner

LODranges = 0, 700, 1050, 1500, 2000, 2800, 4500, 12000

msg_id_prefix = gcs_refer_shiparch_luxliner

mission_property = can_use_med_moors

type = FREIGHTER

DA_archetype = ships\utility\luxury_liner\luxury_liner.cmp

material_library = ships\utility\utility_liner.mat

material_library = fx\envmapbasic.mat

envmap_material = envmapbasic

mass = 800.000000

hold_size = 4300

nanobot_limit = 700

shield_battery_limit = 700

hit_pts = 180000

explosion_arch = liner_explosion

cockpit = cockpits\discovery\luxury_liner.ini

pilot_mesh = generic_pilot

max_bank_angle = 15

camera_offset = 40, 240

camera_angular_acceleration = 0.015000

camera_horizontal_turn_angle = 23

camera_vertical_turn_up_angle = 5

camera_vertical_turn_down_angle = 30

camera_turn_look_ahead_slerp_amount = 1.000000

surface_hit_effects = 0, small_hull_hit_light01, small_hull_hit_light02, small_hull_hit_light03

surface_hit_effects = 1800, small_hull_hit_medium01, small_hull_hit_medium02, small_hull_hit_medium03

surface_hit_effects = 10000, small_hull_hit_heavy01, small_hull_hit_heavy02, small_hull_hit_heavy03

steering_torque = 300000000.000000, 300000000.000000, 500000000.000000

angular_drag = 1500000000.000000, 1500000000.000000, 1500000000.000000

rotation_inertia = 300000000.000000, 300000000.000000, 300000000.000000

nudge_force = 30000.000000

strafe_force = 20000

linear_drag = 1.000000

strafe_power_usage = 2

HP_bay_surface = HpBayDoor01

HP_bay_external = HpBayDoor02

bay_door_anim = Sc_open bay

bay_doors_open_snd = hanger_doors_opening

bay_doors_close_snd = hanger_doors_closing

HP_tractor_source = HpTractor_Source

num_exhaust_nozzles = 1

fuse = fuse_ge_liner_death, 0.000000, 1

fuse = drop_cargo_fuse, 0.000000, 1

hp_type = hp_gun_special_5, HpTurret_Liner_02, HpTurret_Liner_07

hp_type = hp_turret_special_3, HpTurret_Liner_01, HpTurret_Liner_02, HpTurret_Liner_03, HpTurret_Liner_04, HpTurret_Liner_05, HpTurret_Liner_06, HpTurret_Liner_07, HpTurret_Liner_08, HpTurret_Liner_09, HpTurret_Liner_10, HpTurret_Liner_11

shield_link = bigship_shield_150m, HpMount, HpShield01

hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_6, HpShield01

hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_5, HpShield01

;hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_4, HpShield01

hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_3, HpShield01

hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_3, HpSpecialEquipment04

hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_2, HpSpecialEquipment05

hp_type = hp_thruster, HpThruster01

hp_type = hp_countermeasure_dropper, HpCM01

explosion_resistance = 0.900000

hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_1, HpSpecialEquipment01

hp_type = hp_fighter_shield_special_1, HpDockingBay01, HpDockingBay02

tl;dr
fuse = fuse_ge_liner_death, 0.000000, 1
fuse = drop_cargo_fuse, 0.000000, 1

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Egon Bigmemes · (This post was last modified: 05-26-2020, 01:09 AM by Egon Bigmemes.)

This is fascinating since I don't think the liner's had a functional fuse in the entire time I've played Discovery, along with 99% of fuses on other ships having been turned off already.

~~E X O D I T E~~ · (This post was last modified: 05-26-2020, 02:53 AM by E X O D I T E.)

We found the culprit.

It appears that the component separating the bow from the middle, when taking approximately 6-7k damage, will cause the whole ship to explode, as seen here.

EDIT: also apparently Passenger Liner is exempted from balancemagic, not that it matters...

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Megaera · 05-26-2020, 02:53 AM,

I shot the ship from several angles. That one spot only takes a few fighter shots at full hull to destroy the ship.

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**Haste** · 05-27-2020, 03:18 PM,

I can't quite tell if you're hitting the turret in that video or the actual hull. Looking at shiparch.ini, the components have 69300 hitpoints, which is obviously higher than the above-mentioned 6-7k damage.

I can easily merge the components into the main hull (as has been done to the vast majority of ships in Discovery) and fix death-by-component, but I'm a bit curious if shooting the turret also somehow kills the ship (as it obviously shouldn't).

**Alex.** · 05-31-2020, 08:40 AM,

other ships to check

Code:
no_gunboat {'fuse_no_gunboat_death'}

no_battleship {'fuse_no_battleship_death'}

ge_liner {'fuse_ge_prison_death'}

ge_prison {'fuse_ge_prison_death'}

dsy_liner {'fuse_ge_prison_death'}

dsy_prison {'fuse_ge_prison_death'}

li_gunboat {'dsy_gunboat_death_fuse'}

dsy_battlestar {'dsy_battleship_death_player_fuse'}

dsy_bsg {'dsy_battleship_death_player_fuse'}

dsy_no2_bcruiser {'dsy_cruiser_death_player_fuse'}

dsy_no_cruiser {'dsy_cruiser_death_player_fuse'}

dsy_providence {'dsy_battleship_death_player_fuse'}

dsy_rh_carrier {'dsy_battleship_death_player_fuse'}

dsy_coa_carrier {'dsy_battleship_death_player_fuse'}

dsy_angurvadal {'dsy_battleship_death_player_fuse'}

dsy_cargobarge_1 {'dsy_barge_death_player_fuse'}

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Dark.Star · 05-31-2020, 10:46 AM,

What caught my eye is that it's an old kind of big ship fuse.

The one in which parts start to separate and remain as actual wreckage, instead of just explosions going around for a bit of time. Imo that kind of fuse is pretty cool and should be added back. (I know I know, fuses bug server or ships etc., similar to dock modules story. Dock modules however got fixed, but if fuses would be fixed as well that'd be really cool Smile

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Megaera · 05-31-2020, 06:33 PM,

(05-27-2020, 03:18 PM)Haste Wrote: I can't quite tell if you're hitting the turret in that video or the actual hull. Looking at shiparch.ini, the components have 69300 hitpoints, which is obviously higher than the above-mentioned 6-7k damage.

I can easily merge the components into the main hull (as has been done to the vast majority of ships in Discovery) and fix death-by-component, but I'm a bit curious if shooting the turret also somehow kills the ship (as it obviously shouldn't).

I was the one shooting it. I was shooting the hull, not the turret. There is a square section of hull that is an instant kill if only a few shots of my fighter hit it.

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**Haste** · 06-16-2020, 07:14 PM,

Related to this: https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...tid=180609.

I've removed the [CollisionGroup]s from the Passenger Liner and the Prison Liner, which should fix this in the first upcoming patch.

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