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Offline Sava
06-01-2020, 12:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-01-2020, 12:46 PM by Sava.)
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So, we've all heard different opinions about whether or not sieges and POB construction require a comparable level of effort, and if the current mechanics is justifiable.

I offer a new approach that would make it a more level playground, introducing a feasible counterplay and consequences for the sieging party.
My proposition is ammo-based siege equipment, with ammo being produced/available only at POBs

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Offline Mick
06-01-2020, 12:45 PM,
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I think having siege equipment is a good idea! - In another game i play it is DnD - we have ballistas etc that are available to fire if castles are attacked, and also movable siege equipment specifcially designed for sieging - I definitely think from what i have read so far that having a Siege based equipment specifically designed for Sieging bases is a good way to combat a lot of this issues i am reading!

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Offline Shiki
06-01-2020, 12:46 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-01-2020, 12:48 PM by Shiki.)
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With pobs still having platforms your proposition is awfully one sided. Now you can proceed with making 10 more pob whining threads instead of actually defending them.

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Offline Mephistoles
06-01-2020, 12:49 PM,
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Player base sieges already do depend on ammunition, the ammunition being ships that cost hundreds of millions of credits to set up and make competitive. This is plenty enough.

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Offline Sava
06-01-2020, 12:51 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-01-2020, 12:55 PM by Sava.)
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(06-01-2020, 12:46 PM)Shiki Wrote: With pobs still having platforms your proposition is awfully one sided. Now you can proceed with making 10 more pob whining threads instead of actually defending them.
Why? The attackers can build WPs around their siege factory as well

(06-01-2020, 12:49 PM)Mephistoles Wrote: Player base sieges already do depend on ammunition, the ammunition being ships that cost hundreds of millions of credits to set up and make competitive. This is plenty enough.
Point of ammunition is that it's consumable, and point of my suggestion is to level up the game and make siege and defense tactics overlap more.
Ships are permanent. Attackers could as well risk losing something actually killable.

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Offline darkwind
06-01-2020, 12:51 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-01-2020, 12:55 PM by darkwind.)
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(06-01-2020, 12:49 PM)Mephistoles Wrote: Player base sieges already do depend on ammunition, the ammunition being ships that cost hundreds of millions of credits to set up and make competitive. This is plenty enough.

Nah, once they have this ammunition they could go for a killing spree of bases without any losses to themselves. Enclave loses nothing when they siege next base after base.

That's not important though. I would prefer seeing Siege Gun which needs to be roleplayed as difficult as PoB levels and can be destroyed forever as PoBs during those sieges.


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Offline Shiki
06-01-2020, 12:56 PM,
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(06-01-2020, 12:51 PM)Sava Wrote:
(06-01-2020, 12:46 PM)Shiki Wrote: With pobs still having platforms your proposition is awfully one sided. Now you can proceed with making 10 more pob whining threads instead of actually defending them.
Why? The attackers can build WPs around their siege factory as well

You enforce pob esque building gameplay on people who dont enjoy pobs. POBs are economy option working through ass plugin in space shooter game with rp elements.

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Offline Thunderer
06-01-2020, 12:57 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-01-2020, 12:59 PM by Thunderer.)
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One battleship/weapon can be applied for an unlimited number of sieges. Ammunition is expendable and needs constant recharge.

However, I worry that building troll core 1-s en masse might ruin this idea. The ammo will have to be costly, but troll core 1 POBs are very cheap to make (as far as I am informed, but admittedly I don't know much about POBs).

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Offline darkwind
06-01-2020, 12:57 PM,
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(06-01-2020, 12:56 PM)Shiki Wrote: You enforce pob esque building gameplay on people who dont enjoy pobs. POBs are economy option working through ass plugin in space shooter game with rp elements.

This is roleplay game with space shooter elements.


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Offline SnakThree
06-01-2020, 01:02 PM,
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(06-01-2020, 12:57 PM)darkwind Wrote:
(06-01-2020, 12:56 PM)Shiki Wrote: You enforce pob esque building gameplay on people who dont enjoy pobs. POBs are economy option working through ass plugin in space shooter game with rp elements.

This is roleplay game with space shooter elements.

Actually not. Server rules are for roleplay. Mod is about space shooter.

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