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Mark_Brown · (This post was last modified: 07-13-2020, 11:06 PM by Mark_Brown.)

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Hemlocke · 07-13-2020, 11:11 PM,

[13.07.2020 20:55:49] Death: aTau was put out of action by Tapuchips (Gun).
[13.07.2020 20:56:58] Death: PoiosEimai was put out of action by Tapuchips (Gun).
[13.07.2020 20:57:41] Death: aTau was put out of action by Tapuchips (Gun).

[13.07.2020 20:58:22] Tapuchips: freelancers stopattacking
[13.07.2020 20:58:29] Tapuchips: i killed you 3 times already

^That, is provided by Bellck, followed by his apparent complete lack of knowledge about the engagement line 3.6 He claimed the gunship Which is Tapuchips. Is a pvp rule breaker because he is continuesly attacking people. Though clearly he is telling them to quit shooting at him cause they are new, the pvp rule states if you die whilst in a pvp situation you are to leave the system for 1 hour, 30 minutes if contested and avoid re-engaging those that killed you in the pvp encounter. However, there is no limitation to the person that killed you, they can re-engage you if they wish. However, in this case that is not what was happening. The noobs, as I assume aTau and PoiosEmai are the new players in question, are repeatedly returning after a combat death to shoot at the gunboat in question.

[13.07.2020 20:57:39] [LIA]-Mark.Brown: Planet Erie, Outcast sighted (These two are faction messages)
[13.07.2020 20:58:08] [LIA]-Mark.Brown: its a gunboat

[13.07.2020 21:00:28] 5th|LNS-Vermont: Shepard: can you stop?
[13.07.2020 21:00:35] 5th|LNS-Vermont: Shepard: one more time and I will have you arrested.
[13.07.2020 21:00:44] [LIA]-Kaiju: K: I apologize, I had to get your attention
[13.07.2020 21:00:59] 5th|LNS-Vermont: Shepard: By ramming my ship?
[13.07.2020 21:01:04] 5th|LNS-Vermont: Shepard: Are you insane?
[13.07.2020 21:01:06] [LIA]-Kaiju: K: We found an outcast in Pennsylvania
[13.07.2020 21:01:11] 5th|LNS-Vermont: Shepard: Then go deal with it.
[13.07.2020 21:01:28] 5th|LNS-Vermont: Shepard: I didnt realize the Liberty Security Force was under funded.

^That is part of the encounter, (by the way ramming capital ships is sanctionable.) Where your members wanted the 5th| (Who provided a good example of what to do in these situations instead of what not to do like you did) would not engage the gunboat that was repeatedly being engaged by noobs that didn't take the time to read the rules properly and thus continued to engage after PvP death.

You responded to this by logging a Battlecruiser to aid rulebreakers, the Battlecruiser is a ship that your faction claims not to utilize to avoid being a carbon copy of the =LSF=, which clearly you have one here, so that's a problem. Back to the main question at hand.

This the kind of thing we can expect from your faction from now on? Or is this gonna get corrected, because if a faction says they will avoid doing a certain thing, then does it anyway, there's no reason to trust a thing you say.

Mark_Brown · (This post was last modified: 07-13-2020, 11:15 PM by Mark_Brown.)

At no point did Chimera see the Outcast Gunboat in-game, this is merely a metagame poke at the faction as Chimera had no knowledge of the gunboat, and at no point during its flight did it see "ANY" gunboats.

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Hemlocke · (This post was last modified: 07-13-2020, 11:22 PM by Hemlocke.)

I'd say this is a pretty good visualization of why Bellck, and this faction should not be taken seriously under any circumstance given the fact he's pushing his own agenda on what happened instead of providing actual responses to the feedback for the faction.

People will draw their own conclusions from this behavior, there are consequences to your actions and responses like this will cost any respect your faction has previously gotten.

I would suggest you handle feedback for your faction far better in the future.

Edit: Apparently he edited his copy paste before I saw it, Bellck, the community's eye on your actions isn't metagame. If you think faction feedback is metagaming, feel free to attempt a report, as you clearly don't understand the rules 3.6 or 1.5 as has been clearly displayed here. The fact that someone who has no grasp of the rules and has gone out of his way in the past to attempt to sanction people for grey areas in the rules themselves, it's concerning that you are HC in this faction.

Mark_Brown · 07-13-2020, 11:28 PM,

I could copy and paste your attitude on Discord too Hemlocke. This is why we do not want to reply to you. Your attitude is disgusting along with your vocabulary used to mimic a child like attitude who cannot get his own way where your swearing and cursing has been submitted to the HC also.

So because of your attitude ignorance is bliss, we do not want to reply, and we as a faction choose not too.

This has been discussed internally, and we're happy with the outcome.

Good day.

Hemlocke · (This post was last modified: 07-13-2020, 11:37 PM by Hemlocke.)

I've already showed it to Kal, but since you like making threats you won't back up, sure, I'll show your complete "ignorance is bliss" to the rules and our conversation where you lost your mind over a word.

JustBellckThings

The fact I have to explain the rules to you when you've been back longer than I have is pathetic, the fact you lose your mind over a swear word, is pathetic. You call me childish yet you're out here ignoring serious feedback and giving childish responses in their own right to a problem with what the faction told the community its goals were. If you are incapable of receiving feedback without it taking an emotional toll upon you, then you don't belong in an HC of a faction.

I was a little taken aback that you were incapable of handling a single swear word so I decided to respond with the good ol' Hemlocke way. I blocked you cause I really don't wanna deal with you any longer, I'd rather talk with the other members of your (hopefully intelligent) HC that can handle feedback in a professional manner. To which you you decided to send me a forum message because you need the last word I guess.

Threatening people is a hilarious, immature and questionably within the rules action to partake in. I'm pretty sure you're older than me, but it seems you still need some growing up to do. I took the liberty of placing stars so people can see exactly what was said instead of bleeps.

rayne · 07-14-2020, 08:35 AM,

WOW

I think I better chime in here. What an absolute mess this is. First of all this is a feedback thread, not a place for playground squabbles, take that private if you would. Thank you.

Now for the matter in hand, yes we have 1 capital ship that serves as a mobile command unit. We don't even have gunboats, our fleet consists of 1 cap ship and the rest are bombers and fighters. If you have a problem with that, then sorry I can't help there. As for it's deployment last night, I believe Bellck when he says it was to scare off the Outcast. However, I would rather a swarm of bombers have done that instead.

The Chimera as of now, will only be deployed as 1. Mobile command unit and stay in New York and 2. Only enter into a combat mission in extreme circumstances, ie the Navy, Police etc need cap ship backup.

On a parting note, I am very very disappointed in my feedback thread turning into a petty he said she said argument.

In future, if something like this happens again, please message me on here or Discord to sort this out like adults. Reading this argument killed a few brain cells.

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Groshyr · 07-14-2020, 08:38 AM,

Was a lonely outcast gunboat extreme circumstance?

rayne · 07-14-2020, 08:39 AM,

(07-14-2020, 08:38 AM)Groshyr Wrote: Was a lonely outcast gunboat extreme circumstance?

Did you even read what I said?

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Egon Bigmemes · 07-14-2020, 10:15 AM,

If you don't want feedback public, why make a thread?

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