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Offline SquigglyKey
07-26-2020, 08:23 AM,
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Looks pretty neat.

I like the diplomacy, that’s a new take on things.
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Offline The Black Orchestra
07-26-2020, 10:46 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-26-2020, 10:49 AM by The Black Orchestra.)
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(07-26-2020, 06:52 AM)Traxit Wrote: At first I praised your write-up for being readable and not strainy on the eyes.
Then I realized you were supposed to be intelligence through your diplomacy. (Suspicious to everyone)
So I jokingly said to myself "Hmm, maybe I'll join this one faction and roleplay like the gestapo - hje hje.

Boy that didn't age well.

Feel free to put in an application. We're not, and we don't intend to start ethnic purges in Freelancer or push a fascist ideology.
Our style is based on the Kingdom of Prussia, using black, white, grey and blue.

(07-26-2020, 08:12 AM)Groshyr Wrote: I don't really care about what you have written there but writeup looks pretty well. I hope you will be more active than 100500 other factions of Imperial Rheinland.

We will try to be!

(07-26-2020, 08:18 AM)Shiki Wrote: I mean they started as unironic nazi faction and used one of the irl nazi emblems as logo.

Thats a very big cringe even by rheinland standards, smh my head.

But at the same time there is (was by now, apparently) NPC faction called kempetai which is no better than gestapo and even worse at some occasions lol. So i guess thats the lack of consistency in rule enforcement on the staff side and nothings your fault <3

The very first logo was the a Luftwaffe logo taken from Steel Division, which was scrapped. Since then we've changed the logo to an eagle holding a key, the Eagle being a sign of Imperial Rheinland and the key being, a symbol to unlock things. I believe its fitting for an intelligence faction.

(07-26-2020, 08:23 AM)SquigglyKey Wrote: Looks pretty neat.

I like the diplomacy, that’s a new take on things.

It is set to reflect DSK's role as a protector of the Emperor, naturally being suspicious of everyone.
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Offline Toaster
07-26-2020, 11:43 AM,
#13
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I would recommend perhaps scrapping the use of skulls, just to be on the safe side in terms of Nazi/SS iconography.

Other than that, quick proofreading: It's "the schwarzen Dreizehn" and "Konteradmiral"

Olivia Sable
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Offline Kanzler Niemann
07-26-2020, 12:04 PM,
#14
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(07-26-2020, 11:43 AM)Toaster Wrote: Other than that, quick proofreading: It's "the schwarzen Dreizehn" and "Konteradmiral"
That is wrong. It is "The Schwarze Dreizehn. You also could change Einsatzkraft to "Einsatzkräfte" and by the way "Fähnrich" is a way higher rank than "Ensign" irl which is a higher rank than Feldwebel as well if you take the ranks of the German Bundeswehr as an example. I like the idea and even if this is already a older faction and it looks you've finally found your direction. I like the rank emblems by the way.
(07-26-2020, 11:43 AM)Toaster Wrote: I would recommend perhaps scrapping the use of skulls, just to be on the safe side in terms of Nazi/SS iconography.
xd skulls were always used by some military groups, here is a small collection of it. It funny to say that there are a lot of other countries and military groups that use the Skull as their emblem besides the Waffen SS. Anyways, good luck with your faction, I really hope you will be different from all the other factions if you need help with German you can hit me up.

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Offline Toaster
07-26-2020, 12:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-26-2020, 12:40 PM by Toaster.)
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(07-26-2020, 12:04 PM)Wasserdrache Wrote: That is wrong. It is "The Schwarze Dreizehn.

That depends. Since the Black Thirteen are a collection of individuals (at least that's how I understood it), it would be plural. So, "schwarzen"

(07-26-2020, 12:04 PM)Wasserdrache Wrote: xd skulls were always used by some military groups, here is a small collection of it. It funny to say that there are a lot of other countries and military groups that use the Skull as their emblem besides the Waffen SS

True, but it's Rheinland. Might as well be on the safe side.

Olivia Sable
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Offline The Black Orchestra
07-26-2020, 01:24 PM,
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(07-26-2020, 12:04 PM)Wasserdrache Wrote: That is wrong. It is "The Schwarze Dreizehn. You also could change Einsatzkraft to "Einsatzkräfte" and by the way "Fähnrich" is a way higher rank than "Ensign" irl which is a higher rank than Feldwebel as well if you take the ranks of the German Bundeswehr as an example. I like the idea and even if this is already a older faction and it looks you've finally found your direction. I like the rank emblems by the way.
(07-26-2020, 11:43 AM)Toaster Wrote: I would recommend perhaps scrapping the use of skulls, just to be on the safe side in terms of Nazi/SS iconography.
xd skulls were always used by some military groups, here is a small collection of it. It funny to say that there are a lot of other countries and military groups that use the Skull as their emblem besides the Waffen SS. Anyways, good luck with your faction, I really hope you will be different from all the other factions if you need help with German you can hit me up.

Edited Einsatzkfrat, although I can't do that accented capital A. Swapped Ensign to Candidate as it is more fitting.

We have removed the skull icons due to the feedback and replaced them with something else.
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Offline Toaster
07-26-2020, 01:30 PM,
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(07-26-2020, 01:24 PM)The Black Orchestra Wrote: although I can't do that accented capital A

You could just copy-paste it.

Olivia Sable
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Offline Kanzler Niemann
07-26-2020, 01:41 PM,
#18
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(07-26-2020, 12:39 PM)Toaster Wrote:
(07-26-2020, 12:04 PM)Wasserdrache Wrote: That is wrong. It is "The Schwarze Dreizehn.

That depends. Since the Black Thirteen are a collection of individuals (at least that's how I understood it), it would be plural. So, "schwarzen"



(07-26-2020, 12:04 PM)Wasserdrache Wrote: xd skulls were always used by some military groups, here is a small collection of it. It funny to say that there are a lot of other countries and military groups that use the Skull as their emblem besides the Waffen SS

True, but it's Rheinland. Might as well be on the safe side.
- In this context "with the considerable backing of the Imperials, the Schwarz Dreizehn began to embed their roots deep within the hierarchy of the MND." refered as a whole it is "Die Schwarze Dreizehn".
- And? Does that mean that everything in Rheinland is a refrence to the Nazi regime of the middle 20th century? Why is KNF allowed to use the Kyokujitsuki which is higly prohibited in China and South Korea for example. Very weak agruement because it is "Rheinland" lmao.

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Offline Toaster
07-26-2020, 01:49 PM,
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(07-26-2020, 01:41 PM)Wasserdrache Wrote: embed their roots

Plural. Die Schwarzen Dreizehn. It's not "the black number thirteen," it's "the black thirteen individuals."

As for Rheinland, it has always had problems with people roleplaying Nazis (or borderline Nazis). I'm just pointing out that any association with this kind of behavior is best avoided.

Olivia Sable
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Offline Shiki
07-26-2020, 02:03 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-26-2020, 02:04 PM by Shiki.)
#20
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To be fair this faction has the strongest nazi vibes that I've ever seen in disco. People argued about [RM]/BDM| and their usage of Nazi uniforms, but this thing brings it to a whole new level. I am not too bothered since I don't plan to invest my time in Rheinland anytime soon, but stuff like this may the reason why people would avoid playing there.

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