The Black Orchestra - Feedback

[Jayenbee]

This community has a severe problem with identifying just what the fuck a Nazi is. As someone who's a WW2 History Major, I can for a fact say that I'm pretty damn impressed with their attempts to not be Nazi.

And honestly, the way this community jumps the gun and hops straight on accusations without even stopping to think.

@Kazinsal honestly I'm disappointed.

I wish you guys the best of luck and I hope you'll be able to break the Rheinland stigma where others have failed.

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[Kampanom]

It's literally Imperial Rheinland's secret service, what Nazis am I missing?

[Corile]

I don't see anything that's even remotely related to the nazis in the writeup other than the name, and that's a very big stretch indeed. And given that even Netrunner (which I think is the most progressive and politically correct place I've ever seen hasn't been complaining about their own Black Orchestra), I think it's just moaning for moaning sake.

Also Shiki is trolling.

Looks cool, best of luck.

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@edit: Actually, one thing: the font you're using is not installed by default on Windows or is not imported from Google Fonts on the forums. See here.

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[Omi]

Anything that isn't totally bland and flavourless when it comes to Rheinland ends up being equated with Nazism almost immediately. Every other corner of Discovery can get away with all kinds of imagery and lore-related atrocities simply because the real-world analogue for each of them wasn't involved in any (overt) real-world no-nos in the past century.

It's also a really handy buzzword for people to jump onto and bash immediately, because Nazis and Nazism are indefensible and it's a lot easier to pile on and whinge than it is to separate fact and fiction for one second.

tl;dr you're only allowed to play racist genocidal types if you're playing in Gallia or something; if you do anything remotely similar to that in Rheinland it automatically makes you a neo-Nazi. :thinking:

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[Traxit]

It's mostly because the wehrmacht is flooded with nazi iconography and such. Such is the fate of a military controlled by a fascist political party.

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[The Black Orchestra]

It's literally Imperial Rheinland's secret service, what Nazis am I missing?

There were some unfortunate oversights which were quickly changed. The use of a black notched shield, use of a skull (not a Totenkopf) in the ranks and of half a skull for a division insignia. These uses prompted some reactions.

I don't see anything that's even remotely related to the nazis in the writeup other than the name, and that's a very big stretch indeed. And given that even Netrunner (which I think is the most progressive and politically correct place I've ever seen hasn't been complaining about their own Black Orchestra), I think it's just moaning for moaning sake.

Also Shiki is trolling.

Looks cool, best of luck.

Polak's stamp of approval.

@edit: Actually, one thing: the font you're using is not installed by default on Windows or is not imported from Google Fonts on the forums. See here.

I've switched the font to F25 Bank Printer, it is one of the standard ones on this forum. The previous one, while it appeared slightly different to me, was extremely different to some. That has now gone. But thank you for the tip on font alternatives.

[Wulthus]

Anything that isn't totally bland and flavourless when it comes to Rheinland ends up being equated with Nazism almost immediately. Every other corner of Discovery can get away with all kinds of imagery and lore-related atrocities simply because the real-world analogue for each of them wasn't involved in any (overt) real-world no-nos in the past century.

It's also a really handy buzzword for people to jump onto and bash immediately, because Nazis and Nazism are indefensible and it's a lot easier to pile on and whinge than it is to separate fact and fiction for one second.

tl;dr you're only allowed to play racist genocidal types if you're playing in Gallia or something; if you do anything remotely similar to that in Rheinland it automatically makes you a neo-Nazi. :thinking:

This. Thank you. Also, Just a daily reminder that we have people RPing other genocidal ideologies out here and no one cries about it.

[Shiki]

Now it looks much better stylistically. I would like withdraw my previous comments, since logo was changed and skulls are no longer there.

Big Kudos for actually listening to the feedback though, it's kind of rare among discovery factions.

Best of luck too.

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[Typrop]

Sorry on that one. Probably was my fault, I just saw a bunch of things that caught my eye, and since I've got a history of working with people trying their level best to fly that sort of thing under the radar, it stuck out to me as some guy being like, edgy Stormfront about the whole ordeal. Working with /pol/ really shows you the lengths stupid people go to LARP as their fetishized political ideals.

Since there's been a good deal of changes, I hope there's at least some flavor that can be derived from this in order to make good on the faction's original intent, and produce quality roleplay. Not that I'd know what that is, given what I crank out.

Good luck.

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[Kanzler Niemann]

It's still Die Schwarze Dreizehn btw.

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