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(Light) Cloak Nerf Thread
Offline Binski
08-27-2020, 06:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-13-2020, 11:10 PM by Binski.)
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Please!

Revert that last cloak nerfing patch. I could go on with many reasons as to why, but its mainly out of principle at this point. It just proves we only ever side with pvp addicts who get (overly) irritated if someone got away on them.

In a game where its easy to show up with 150 fps and a fibre optic internet connection and own easily, I didn't see it as that bad to have had the stats we did. And it only effects snubs, all other ships already are at 20s, and thats fine.

Blue addicts should be forced to accept some loss sometimes too! That, or cap the framerate at 75fps!
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Offline Chronicron
08-27-2020, 06:57 PM,
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(08-27-2020, 06:34 PM)Binski Wrote: Blue addicts should be forced to accept some loss sometimes too!
you mean the balance team?

cloaks are already nerfed into the ground with cloak disruptors being a thing, having above 10 seconds to charge on a snub is idiotic and makes snub cloaks a waste of time and cash

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Offline Lucas
08-27-2020, 06:58 PM,
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Im not sure how FPS and the cloak nerf have anything to do with one another?

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Offline Lemon
08-27-2020, 07:45 PM,
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I love the cloak change!
As I use them for scouting and getting past people
Please keep the buff in Smile
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Offline Haste
08-27-2020, 07:47 PM,
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The snub cloak changes, which I find hard to describe as a nerf considering how much the duration has improved, are pretty much a necessity with long-planned changes to (cruise disruptor) ammo counts. I would recommend learning to live with your now much more practical cloak that may actually allow you to get around, rather than a cloak designed to maybe possibly let you get away from combat once every hundred fights if your opponent is not paying much attention.

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Offline MasterL410
08-27-2020, 09:24 PM,
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You can still get away almost as easy as before. If you fail, you're not doing it right.
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Offline Hubjump
08-27-2020, 10:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-27-2020, 10:27 PM by Hubjump.)
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Cap cloaks kinda suck tho.
Pair it with a battleship scanner and you're still in decloak range and the cloak disruptor is instant and costs only 50 bats out of their 1000 or what ever depending on cap.

And even then its only use is butt cloaking Sad
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Offline Groshyr
08-27-2020, 11:41 PM,
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Remove the cloaks and let people stop abusing this coward piece of equipment
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Offline Binski
08-28-2020, 12:05 AM,
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(08-27-2020, 07:47 PM)Haste Wrote: The snub cloak changes, which I find hard to describe as a nerf considering how much the duration has improved, are pretty much a necessity with long-planned changes to (cruise disruptor) ammo counts. I would recommend learning to live with your now much more practical cloak that may actually allow you to get around, rather than a cloak designed to maybe possibly let you get away from combat once every hundred fights if your opponent is not paying much attention.

Yeah I won't be even remotely entertaining the notion. I've drawn the line, this change was one too far for me. We know who this favors and why. I describe this as a nerf since doubling the time to use this makes its tactical value much weaker. Its less effective, so how is that more practical? its like raising the price and saying its cheaper, and I'm not naive. You could already use all of the cloaks for getting around just fine, seems like fixing what isn't broken again. If you keep working on a piece of art, you will eventually ruin it.

(08-27-2020, 06:58 PM)Lucas Wrote: Im not sure how FPS and the cloak nerf have anything to do with one another?

Some things help balance out the other imbalances. In pvp, its easy for those with better systems to dominate. Cloaks help even the playing field, just like armors, faster weapons, etc. Some stick to larger ship classes. We really did not need to hand fighter addicts more kills.

(08-27-2020, 09:24 PM)MasterL410 Wrote: You can still get away almost as easy as before. If you fail, you're not doing it right.

It was actually not that easy, but at least with 10s you have a remote chance if those chasing forget to cd that long. Especially when its usually against multiple people chasing. Its far less likely now that the time has doubled, since the longer the time, the less likely you are to make it. If it made almost no diff, then why change it?

(08-27-2020, 07:45 PM)Relation-Ship Wrote: I love the cloak change!
As I use them for scouting and getting past people
Please keep the buff in Smile

Its just the change in the charge time for the small cloak that is the problem, and it was done to make sure not one more pvpweiner would have to throw a fit if one more cloaker got away on them. So they throw in an ammo increase to ease it it seems.

(08-27-2020, 11:41 PM)Groshyr Wrote: Remove the cloaks and let people stop abusing this coward piece of equipment

Stealth technology and its application is an art bud, its been ruined here by cowards who aren't even brave enough to have real battles in a video game. Want to show me you got balls? Embrace the way it was, participate in more than simulated (pointless) battles.
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Offline Ice Princess
08-28-2020, 12:31 AM,
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(08-28-2020, 12:05 AM)Binski Wrote:
(08-27-2020, 11:41 PM)Groshyr Wrote: Remove the cloaks and let people stop abusing this coward piece of equipment

Stealth technology and its application is an art bud, its been ruined here by cowards who aren't even brave enough to have real battles in a video game. Want to show me you got balls? Embrace the way it was, participate in more than simulated (pointless) battles.

I delight in the irony. Isn't using cloaks during a fight to run away from it in order to deny a probably deserved blue for the other party exactly that? Cowardice? You just showed everyone who definitely has no balls.

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