Petition for CaitlynCross/LordHelmchen/BrokenWings

[Ramke]

excuse me but I was told it will be Deleted today that was tonight at 3 or 4 in the morning there was no word that I could EDIT it was said it will be deleted and I should save it when I want to keep it. since then I have already done some Changes. apart from that did I really Tryed to work together with the GMs and the Staff. I really do my Best to show the Dark Side of this game but her RP evolved and is now more Oriented towards healing her Scars both Body and Mind.

Would you like me to post the conversation between you and Slappy, depicting the warning with the offer of reworking it?

Don't falsify things to push your point.

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[Couden]

who?

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[Karlotta]

I think part of the issue could be that while the explicit descriptions of the abuse, fear, and distress of the victim are (probably) not intended to be appealing to pedos, they might unintentionally still be appealing/exciting/stimulating to them.

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User was banned for: https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...tid=200950
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[Broken Wings]

excuse me but I was told it will be Deleted today that was tonight at 3 or 4 in the morning there was no word that I could EDIT it was said it will be deleted and I should save it when I want to keep it. since then I have already done some Changes. apart from that did I really Tryed to work together with the GMs and the Staff. I really do my Best to show the Dark Side of this game but her RP evolved and is now more Oriented towards healing her Scars both Body and Mind.

Would you like me to post the conversation between you and Slappy, depicting the warning with the offer of reworking it?

Don't falsify things to push your point.

Discord Talk with Slappy

Slappyheute um 04:39 Uhr
Can we have a talk?

Lord Helmchenheute um 04:40 Uhr
Sure is ther something Wrong?

Slappyheute um 04:40 Uhr
Well, I'm sure you remember some discussions about Broken Wings

Lord Helmchenheute um 04:40 Uhr
Yes

Slappyheute um 04:41 Uhr
I think we've reached a tipping point.
[04:41]
[13.11.2020 19:06:20] Broken.Wings: Sonja: Sure whatever lets you sleep at night for alowing to fire on a 17 year old former Sex Slave

Lord Helmchenheute um 04:43 Uhr
hmm i have tryed to talk with the one i rped about it afterwards. because i felt i maybd Steped over a line ther. sadly did i never recived a Awnser(Bearbeitet)

Slappyheute um 04:44 Uhr
I know it's been kept possibly vague, but I think we're past that at this point.
[04:45]
We've come down hard on this kind of behavior quick in the past. It simply doesn't have a place here.

Lord Helmchenheute um 04:45 Uhr
Yes Sonjas Story is Dark and such but i always tryed to keep it not to Dark(Bearbeitet)

Slappyheute um 04:45 Uhr
"Dark" is one thing, but child sex slavery is another.
[04:46]
https://discoverygc.com/forums/member.ph...&uid=33417
[04:46]
Here's a quick example.
[04:47]
I know you've put a lot of time and effort into it, but I think it's really gone to a place where the community is now aware of what this is, and it's simply not something we can do here.
[04:47]
And as a team, we've discussed it because it's been brought to our attention.

Lord Helmchenheute um 04:48 Uhr
ok well to be honest the Cahr is Also Liked and i get a loot of Positive Feedback about her she makes a Evolution and a World wher Slaves are Sold ther are Storys Like Sonjas

Slappyheute um 04:48 Uhr
Oh I agree, you can take a character through many successful and enjoyable arcs.

Lord Helmchenheute um 04:49 Uhr
Yes did you read the RP i make with Doc Holiday Right now for example its still shows her past but i try to be not to detaild

Slappyheute um 04:50 Uhr
1.1 - Abusive, vulgar, obscene, political, discriminatory against protected characteristics (e.g. racist), graphic, pornographic and law-violating materials

That's the problem I think. You're trying to hide what it is, and it's something that's really not appropriate.
[04:50]
So when you can't hide it or someone learns something about it, I can understand why it's bothersome.

Lord Helmchenheute um 04:52 Uhr
i can understand that its nothing for everyone but i think she os right now Known enough so that the peapole can decide on ther own. apart from that I dont realy understand it when you have Drug Dealers and Slavers in the Game but the Story of a Victim is to Hefty(Bearbeitet)

Slappyheute um 04:53 Uhr
Sure, slavery is a part of the game. But child slavery, sex slavery, is not and will not be.
[04:54]
Not everyone here is 18+ and for those who are, many have extremely strong reactions to this kind of thing.
[04:54]
And to be frank, it's illegal.

Lord Helmchenheute um 04:54 Uhr
oh Please wher is slavery ther is always that part of slavery too. i keep her Past as Vague as Posible already and i have a Disclaimer on every Episode of her Diary

Slappyheute um 04:54 Uhr
I understand. But again, obviously this is going on in game.

Lord Helmchenheute um 04:56 Uhr
Yes i underatand that. so what are you gona Say? End your Char or we end it?

Slappyheute um 04:57 Uhr
Yes. Obviously you can tell from the quote time, it's something we've discussed for a while.
[04:57]
You're more than free to try some "dark" RP or follow-up with another character that's not a sex slave or a minor.

Lord Helmchenheute um 04:58 Uhr
In this Case i have to think about if I still want to play to be Honest.

Slappyheute um 04:58 Uhr
Exploring themes isn't something we want to limit, but again, the game is open to almost anyone, and there are limits.

Slappy
You're more than free to try some "dark" RP or follow-up with another character that's not a sex slave or a minor.

Lord Helmchenheute um 04:58 Uhr
So if she is a 30 Year old its Fine? is it that what you want to say?

Slappyheute um 04:59 Uhr
We've had slave characters before, yes.
[04:59]
But there's a way to do it that's not a child. Or a sex slave.(Bearbeitet)

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:00 Uhr
she is no more child
[05:00]
she is grown up but haves underatandably some Problems i never realy gave her a Fixed age

Slappyheute um 05:01 Uhr
17 year old former Sex Slave?

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:01 Uhr
yea ok but thats what she thinks she is

Slappyheute um 05:02 Uhr
It doesn't matter. You don't have to be a sex slave. You don't have to think you're a child.
[05:03]
There are many ways to tell tragic or "dark" stories.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:03 Uhr
ok listen i understand i steped over a line ther but I wont end her. you have the Freedome to do it but look at her Views she is liked and she fills a gap that is liked by the Comunity. you have of Course as GMs the Freedome to Ban me but then i have to think about of i want to play in that comunity much Longer

Slappyheute um 05:04 Uhr
This didn't come to our attention from fans.
[05:04]
Rarely do we see things from people who enjoy what they see.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:05 Uhr
Then maybe you should ask the Peapole. i will take it as a waring but i wont end her

Slappyheute um 05:06 Uhr
We will take down the forum threads, but if you'd like to keep a record of them, I'd suggest copying them. Or you can take them down yourself. But this is not a popularity contest or a warning. Child sex slaves, in any form, are not acceptable in this community.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:07 Uhr
is this your Descision or that of all GMs
[05:07]
then you are telling me that my work of almost a YEAR will be Deleted

Slappyheute um 05:07 Uhr
All of the staff have discussed it. And not briefly.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:08 Uhr
man you cant do that at least ask the Comunity about this i have put a loot of effort and Love in her
[05:08]
or make her behind a AGE Barrier but please dont delete her

Slappyheute um 05:09 Uhr
You're more than welcome to change the existing character to something appropriate or create a new one.
[05:10]
But it's clear that you're RPing an underage sex slave.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:10 Uhr
the Caracter is Changeing she is in a Healing Process but she is Traumatized it takes a while and she is on that way
[05:11]
and she is not a SEX SLAVE anymore damit thats her past
[05:12]
she is Free now and trys to heal and to find her Place in this World. look at her whole RP she was a Wreck at the Begin now she i better and she still gets better
[05:12]
if i would only show her bad Sex Slave Side then she would still be a Rogue
[05:13]
this Char is evolving but a Tauma needs Time to Heal that is nothing that works overnight belive i am knowing what i am talking about

Slappyheute um 05:14 Uhr
Healing is a great story. But that's not what this is about.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:16 Uhr
oh realy? then tell me why does she seek help why does she goes to somone like DOC HOLIDAY who is know to be the Ultimate Good Guy and helps Peapole like her i Apologice for taht one Day and that Line but that is not her Whole Character and that line had a Reason. MAX had Alowed to Fire and Hurt her in a NFZ that had Shaken her
[05:18]
and i have worked together from the start with your Team. i asked for advice at the First Episode. and changed her, why is this case now so Diferent?

Slappyheute um 05:22 Uhr
Did you tell anyone it was an underage girl?

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:23 Uhr
some know about it but only ingame and not everyone it was nothing i mentioned Publicly ther are 5 other PLAYERS or so taht know about her Age and as i said her REAL age is Unknown she could be Older(Bearbeitet)
[05:24]
i left that open on Purpose just for a case like this
[05:24]
and the players that know are those that RP Regular with me
[05:26]
i think some may guess it from the way Sonja Acts but i think i was vague mostly and when i told then only after a Longer RP not from the Start

Slappyheute um 05:27 Uhr
Knowing doesn't change the fact that this is what the character is.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:27 Uhr
when its just her age then i can change that
[05:27]
i can make her 24 or so that would still fit
[05:31]
and by the way that day of RP didnt even made it to the Forum
[05:32]
Warning this is a Story about a Traumatized Girl it is Dark and Sad you are Warned

Slappyheute um 05:32 Uhr
It's not something that should be in either.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:32 Uhr
This is standing infront of every Diary Post

Slappyheute um 05:33 Uhr
A warning isn't a free pass for clearly law-violating content.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:34 Uhr
what LAW tell me what law did i Broke Please i dont know anny that i Broke i steped over a line with that RP Fine give me a warning or a Sanction but dont delete my whole char man

Slappyheute um 05:35 Uhr
Is child sex slavery acceptable where you live?
[05:35]
Are stories about it acceptable where you live?

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:35 Uhr
NO BUT ITS A FICTON
[05:36]
and yes storys like her would be maybe 18+ but they would be alowed trough freedome of speach
[05:37]
so i see i cant convince you not to delete her. i find this sad.
[05:38]
I Live in Germany and storys like Sonjas would be alowed here

Slappyheute um 05:40 Uhr
Like I said, this wasn't unilateral and it wasn't without a lot of thought. Its also not something we get joy out of. But we do have responsibilities to the community and the player base and a set of rules to maintain.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:42 Uhr
i find this sad. i dont even get a Chance to KEEP HER

Slappyheute um 05:42 Uhr
And no, I'm not deleting the character from the server.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:42 Uhr
??????? what what is that all then about

Slappyheute um 05:44 Uhr
I'll be removing the forum posts in a day to give you time to archive them. If you'd like to rework your character into something more appropriate, you're more than welcome to.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:45 Uhr
what that is the same. she cant exist without her Story that is the same as if you would LOBOTOMIZE her

Slappyheute um 05:46 Uhr
The choice to restart or reform is up to you.

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:47 Uhr
she is what she is i can change her age but ther is almost 1 YEAR of RP in her. that cant be recreated. or restarted when you delete the Forum Posts then you delete her
[05:48]
ok man i cant do that right now its almost 6 in the morning here i need to sleep now i hope you wont do that i realy doo then she is more than her Traumatic Past

Lord Helmchenheute um 05:56 Uhr
I Will go sleeping now i Beg you a last time not to delet her i will Save her Story tomorow to be safe but i hope you wont do this
[06:02]
will you delete all of her or only her Diary then ther is also happy RP with her

Slappyheute um 06:08 Uhr
We'll look at the individual RP threads separately

Lord Helmchenheute um 06:11 Uhr
Then just tell me waht episodes you dont like and i cahnge them just dont delete her Please(Bearbeitet)

Lord Helmchenheute um 14:59 Uhr
hey so i dont know if you saw it already but ther was some Discusions about Broken Wings today. there is a Vote and i also Changed some things in her Story to make her be seen more Adult. i also want to ask Doc Holiday if he can Give her a Specific Age between 24 an 26 years old i hope that is enough to Convince you not to Delete her but i am Still open for Advices.

[Lusitano]

i notice that this story began several months ago , so ... perhaps if the author had been warned early on, this confusion would have been avoided ... just saying!

[Dark_Knight]

To the people saying "But TV/Books/Movies do underage child ra pe all the time" Yea they do, but you're not interacting with TV/Books/Movies beyond reading/watching them. There really should be a age-limit on characters here.

It's not good to RP this, no matter how skilled at RP you are. It's just wrong and against the rules, no amount of "But I have trauma" can convince me otherwise.

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[LaWey]

CP? Where?
If seriously, i'm advise to autor read Abarat of Clive Barker, to improve style.

[Thexare]

when I first saw this posted I was thinking someone got banned or fined or something

y'know, something resembling an actual punishment

instead apparently it's just someone being told "yo, that's not wanted here, cease"

...

seriously? THAT's what you have your knickers in a knot about?

Fuck's sakes, get some perspective and get the fuck over it.


Edit: Actually y'know what, I'll elaborate since I think some of you are legitimately too self-absorbed to have considered it - this is a real trauma for a lot of people. Sure, you don't have to read the posts on the forum, but say you've been carrying that your whole life and you unexpectedly get a reminder of it in-game.

You don't see where that might be kind of a problem?

I'm not going to bother calling motives into question because it's irrelevant. What it adds to the environment isn't worth the problems, and there's not even an actual punishment involved here.

Last time there was an issue of this sort, an entire faction got disbanded for it.

[Thyrzul]

In the meanwhile we still have drugs and slavery in the game.

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[SnakThree]

In the meanwhile we still have drugs and slavery in the game.

As long as it's not implied or written to be done by minors, it's fine.

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