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Offline Egon Bigmemes
05-31-2023, 11:22 PM,
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dudes worried about an economy where some players have hundreds of billions already
or while pobs exist selling stuff at hilarious markups
Offline Mr.Jamison
05-31-2023, 11:27 PM,
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(05-31-2023, 05:04 PM)Czechmate Wrote: Also, before any nerfing of Barges, the only reliable source of cargo piracy, you will have to think of other ways to make cargo piracy easier in the first place.

(05-31-2023, 11:00 PM)Aingar Wrote:
(05-31-2023, 10:31 PM)Mr.Jamison Wrote: Meanwhile, zero transports over 3600 cargo even have Countermeasures

Acshually:
-Barge itself (lol)
-Gallic Super Train (an SRP but technically it does)
-Whale
-Kusari Tanker
-Luxury Liner
-Pilgrim Liner
-Gallic Train (4250 cargo one)
-Gallic Blackmarket Transport
-Gallic Liner
-Renzu Liner

Ok, then why not all other transports as well?
My point was that why would any pilots who, thru prior experience, know that are needed
go forth without them?

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Offline Egon Bigmemes
05-31-2023, 11:42 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-31-2023, 11:47 PM by Egon Bigmemes.)
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(05-31-2023, 10:31 PM)Mr.Jamison Wrote: Meanwhile, zero transports over 3600 cargo even have Countermeasures, and requesting changes that
make losses to piracy even a little less ubiquitous are considered heresy.
Why? To make piracy easier and trading more difficult, as always. Bias exposed.
its almost like transports were designed to haul large amounts of cargo at the trade off of their guns and armor
you know what else exists?
4300 battle transports who can equip flaks to ward off torpedoes and instantly deshield bombers and have plenty of turrets to bazoomber lone bombers
suck it up buttercup, sacrifice some cargo for protection, get yourself an escort or a scout, or deal with paying a part of your profit for an interaction that will take you 2 minutes. the name of the game is interaction and if transports were meant to never interact with anyone or be immune to piracy we would've never removed their ability to be JD4'd away

also you dont need "prior experience" to know what transports have CMs, just read the fuckin equipment on the vendor lmao. do you have the same complaints about some fighters having turrets while others dont just because youre incapable of intaking information on your screen?

oh gosh, how can i tell a ship has a CM before I buy it?
oh right
Offline Sally
05-31-2023, 11:47 PM,
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(05-31-2023, 11:42 PM)Saronsen Wrote:
(05-31-2023, 10:31 PM)Mr.Jamison Wrote: Meanwhile, zero transports over 3600 cargo even have Countermeasures, and requesting changes that
make losses to piracy even a little less ubiquitous are considered heresy.
Why? To make piracy easier and trading more difficult, as always. Bias exposed.
its almost like transports were designed to haul large amounts of cargo at the trade off of their guns and armor
you know what else exists?
4300 battle transports who can equip flaks to ward off torpedoes and instantly deshield bombers and have plenty of turrets to bazoomber lone bombers
suck it up buttercup, sacrifice some cargo for protection, get yourself an escort or a scout, or deal with paying a part of your profit for an interaction that will take you 2 minutes. the name of the game is interaction and if transports were meant to never interact with anyone or be immune to piracy we would've never removed their ability to be JD4'd away

also you dont need "prior experience" to know what transports have CMs, just read the fuckin equipment on the vendor lmao. do you have the same complaints about some fighters having turrets while others dont just because youre incapable of intaking information on your screen?

+1


Also the Enterprise Luxury Liner is the only 4.3Ker with a CM slot iirc. There's also l'Ane with 4,000 that has a CM and can be used by Freelancers, much better choice than the Pirate Train.

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Offline Sally
05-31-2023, 11:50 PM,
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(05-31-2023, 11:00 PM)Aingar Wrote: Acshually:
-Barge itself (lol)
-Gallic Super Train (an SRP but technically it does)
-Whale
-Kusari Tanker
-Luxury Liner
-Pilgrim Liner
-Gallic Train (4250 cargo one)
-Gallic Blackmarket Transport
-Gallic Liner
-Renzu Liner

Aingar Wrote:-Kusari Tanker

Pretty sure this one has no CM.

Aingar Wrote:-Pilgrim Liner

Has no CM, it does have a CD. The lack of CM makes it the worst liner to pick by far unless you're stuck with Pirate ID.

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Offline Aingar
06-01-2023, 12:11 AM,
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Ah yes, Pilgrim I've made mistake on. But Tanker does indeed have a CM, it's basically a Whale v0.9.
Offline Stewgar
06-01-2023, 12:18 AM,
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(05-31-2023, 06:00 PM)Couden Wrote: Barge is Utterly ***** because it doesn't drop any stuff from it + it is slow + barge players usually flower. Like I had to kill a barge 3 times in a row to finally get some money from piracy, otherwise I waste my time and resources on empty junk.

Have you ever thought about role playing instead of "gib money" 1/2?

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Offline SnakThree
06-01-2023, 07:20 AM,
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Barges are stupid. I remember playing this game to encounter people. You know what helps encountering people? If they are not spread out through stupid systems or spending more time on stupid ships than regular ones. I miss the casual times when the game was about playing the game rather than managing pixel empire that only pixel emperors care about. We have too many Barges and too many POBs.

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Offline Kherty
06-01-2023, 07:30 AM,
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Ah, barges. 15,000,000,000 credits. Dozens of hours of farming. How to tell everyone around you, yes, you! You made it! Congratulations! You wasted so much time for this single thing!

Barges were a cool oddity back in the day. Now it is just a pain. It is a good vessel for mining, don't get me wrong. But there's just too many of them. I find them to be an annoyance now. Because they are.

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Offline OllO
06-01-2023, 08:09 AM,
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Barges are just FINE.

Pirates are not there to make it work not barges fault.

ALSO making billions will force silent traders to just fade away faster than ever.

this is a good thing! this helps organic intentions to grow! like Actual Roleplay!

So yeah Sue me but Barges were ALWAYS Fun and wanted in Disco.

also why just not making Depots infinite ?

i mean COME ON! we put 200k limits ourselves! everything can change!

btw WHAT HAPPENED TO ORDER? yup jellies took em.
 
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