Staff Feedback Thread

[Saronsen]

get evidence yourself like you get it in any other report.

so youre saying its cool if i dont get caught?
for context, they didnt have the energy to /1/2/3 in a fleet fight, even when there was no immediate pressure. hopped into two fights without any words
selective enforcement of the rules is bullsh*t. either enforce them equally or dont enforce them at all. i know plenty of you people would be hard as stone to try and get evidence of me doing something like not waiting 30 seconds and only 25 seconds before shooting someone. half the effectiveness of public sanctions is the naming and shaming so they dont do it again.

[R.P.Curator]

A very big Thanks! to Tunicle for all the help with my return to Discovery! Cheers!

[Lemon]

So you go out of your way to use the service of the streamer, you are in their chat, and they forget to drop lines into a fight where the opponent didn't mind (this is very easy to prove if you are in-game as their opponent) and instead of telling them in their chat you act like their enemy, don't tell them but take their own footage to the admins to get sanctioned?

Seriously, we want to promote streaming, I can tell you that it is actually very taxing to pay attention to the stream, comment and interact with stream chat and the game as well, especially if new streamers come along I sure hope staff will take the route of PMs and chat members of talking in chat about mistakes and will not use evidence against streamers for easy to make mistakes like this. It happened to me too before - when I stream the chat just tells me because they are your audience and they know you put in effort for them.

They are not above the rules - the people who played against them can get them sanctioned easilywith just chat logs - there's no need for evidence from the stream if they actually faced them - I sure hope staff will reject someone silently stalking people's streams looking for mistakes using their efforts against them.


Even what happened to Alucard from his videos with the very rushed sanctions that got overturned - you know who the person is, talk to them, it's not rocket science - you know who the people are who put content out there, approach them first, act later.

[Chronicron]

Behavior like this should not be encouraged nor remain unpunished. Rules are there for a reason, and if you're right in your head - you won't violate them, whether you're a streamer or not.

Likewise, expecting the staff to go through the entire 2 and a hal f hour recording for a VR is a bit overboard. Assuming you haven't, you should provide with a timestamp (they did - Tunicle)of the specific time at which the violation takes place. Either that or you turn on any recording software (OBS, Shadowplay) and you "crop out" the parts of the video where the violation takes place.

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[Toaster]

Rule violations (especially unintentional ones) that depend on interactions with other players, e.g. failing to drop engagement lines, should only be reported by the players present during the interaction, not by a viewer of a stream. If the affected player does not report the violation, then they most likely did not feel negatively impacted by it or dismissed it for some other reason. A stream viewer not participating in the interaction is not affected at all.

Violations that are not dependent on interactions (exploits, cheats, etc.), however, should be reportable regardless of whether it is by a player who witnessed it in-game or a stream viewer.

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Olivia Sable

[Fab]

Rule violations (especially unintentional ones) that depend on interactions with other players, e.g. failing to drop engagement lines, should only be reported by the players present during the interaction.

agreed. there is no good motivation behind such reports. I've seen and been on the receiving end of rule violations such as being engaged without lines, being engaged by PVP dead players, etc but I didn't file reports because I didn't see malicious intent.

what makes a VR report worth filing is the rule breaker's intention, not a slip or mistake.

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ARES / Faction Information / Feedback

[Lemon]

Rule violations (especially unintentional ones) that depend on interactions with other players, e.g. failing to drop engagement lines, should only be reported by the players present during the interaction, not by a viewer of a stream. If the affected player does not report the violation, then they most likely did not feel negatively impacted by it or dismissed it for some other reason. A stream viewer not participating in the interaction is not affected at all.

Violations that are not dependent on interactions (exploits, cheats, etc.), however, should be reportable regardless of whether it is by a player who witnessed it in-game or a stream viewer.

This was my point, but written better.

[Sally]

Rule violations (especially unintentional ones) that depend on interactions with other players, e.g. failing to drop engagement lines, should only be reported by the players present during the interaction, not by a viewer of a stream. If the affected player does not report the violation, then they most likely did not feel negatively impacted by it or dismissed it for some other reason. A stream viewer not participating in the interaction is not affected at all.

Violations that are not dependent on interactions (exploits, cheats, etc.), however, should be reportable regardless of whether it is by a player who witnessed it in-game or a stream viewer.

Couldn't agree more. If two players are satisfied with the encounter, RP or engagement, regardless if rules were broken or not, nobody else should get involved in it. It's as if I logged an Outcast snub and dueled with another Outcast snub in Omega-48 and one of us got slapped over it because some idiot that wasn't involved saw us and decided to file a report.

Player mutual agreement > rules, always.

[Petitioner]

Rule violations (especially unintentional ones) that depend on interactions with other players, e.g. failing to drop engagement lines, should only be reported by the players present during the interaction, not by a viewer of a stream. If the affected player does not report the violation, then they most likely did not feel negatively impacted by it or dismissed it for some other reason. A stream viewer not participating in the interaction is not affected at all.

Violations that are not dependent on interactions (exploits, cheats, etc.), however, should be reportable regardless of whether it is by a player who witnessed it in-game or a stream viewer.

Couldn't agree more. If two players are satisfied with the encounter, RP or engagement, regardless if rules were broken or not, nobody else should get involved in it. It's as if I logged an Outcast snub and dueled with another Outcast snub in Omega-48 and one of us got slapped over it because some idiot that wasn't involved saw us and decided to file a report.

Player mutual agreement > rules, always.

Personally speaking, this is my preferred approach as well.

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[Uknown]

Rule violations (especially unintentional ones) that depend on interactions with other players, e.g. failing to drop engagement lines, should only be reported by the players present during the interaction, not by a viewer of a stream. If the affected player does not report the violation, then they most likely did not feel negatively impacted by it or dismissed it for some other reason. A stream viewer not participating in the interaction is not affected at all.

Violations that are not dependent on interactions (exploits, cheats, etc.), however, should be reportable regardless of whether it is by a player who witnessed it in-game or a stream viewer.

Couldn't agree more. If two players are satisfied with the encounter, RP or engagement, regardless if rules were broken or not, nobody else should get involved in it. It's as if I logged an Outcast snub and dueled with another Outcast snub in Omega-48 and one of us got slapped over it because some idiot that wasn't involved saw us and decided to file a report.

Player mutual agreement > rules, always.

Personally speaking, this is my preferred approach as well.

I must say that is how must be done, i mean, not always you wanna to "drop RP lines" when you know what is the real intention about it ... if you are corsair and seeing an Outcast, even by just by it, probably there would be a fight, not always, still, if the "Affected" user don't report (ha, even me, should be able to get a lot of reports because of that) then i don't see why it has much of harassment if you already knows the obvious, and even if a new user, don't like to be reported, fined and deemed without anything less than nothing just for an error, but i belive that if a side put evidence it can be used by both sides not mattering what can be the cause)

Player satisfied > Player mutual agreement > Rules

The enemy could be really bad at RP or Loring or something, but can be a decent fighting or dumb one ... just let have fun ... but of course, some RP specially for "Experienced players" are really better up ... or you will say to me you did RP when doing a mission against the enemies?

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