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Announcement: House Governments
Offline Kherty
10-29-2023, 12:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-29-2023, 12:35 PM by Kherty.)
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Grazie.
Thank you.
Please proceed as usual and ignore legitimate questions.

(/s).




Haste I think Wrote:Correct. Even if we wanted to, we obviously can't stop players from organizing House/Government Discords or whatever and discussing things in there, and making the communication with staff a formality.

Let me shed some lights on a particular sentence.

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Granted, this requires the OFs to honour the results and vote accordingly - [REMOVED DUE TO IRRELEVANCY]

I have not only doubts, but very much concerns that will be explained below about this last sentence. This is how humans behave. Give power to a single despot (word used according to its definition - in short: one person in power), this person can outright refuse what the "Government" fully agreed on. As for my case, as still being part of this, puppeteer government. I do not expect the OF to fully honour the results, knowing the situation between him and me just the moment after he received this.

I call for a rollback, or at least consider and change how it is to how the Gallic Government functioned and make it closer. (I can explain it to you if needed, as I was the de facto) Chair (parliamentary procedure wording) of the Gallic Union. This was started by the persons with talked to on Discord. This went out of proportion. It has no needs and it ran like this for years. Not because of a singular person leading; not only because we managed to get our Government up and running.

In history, having a single person leading a nation/House here: is a despot, or a tyrant. Please Google the various mottos related to and how tyranny is dealt with, they are usually not very happy. (once again, this is a historical fact. Don't fire at me.)

Let us watch how colossal the messup will this end up to be. Maybe not. Maybe yes. I offered you a solution. An actual Assembly based off the Gallic Assembly's structure. I even have made a diagram for newcomers to explain how it worked if needed a while ago.

In short: unOF, OF, lawful, quasilawful, unlawfuls, part of the House Government. This will prevent backstabbing, gossiping, spreading false rumors, and most of all: foster cooperation by having X faction not being in accordance with the current motion that has been moved. It is possible to do so. Discussion amongst them and get these representatives in accordance will also foster cooperation.

I urge you NOT to create a despotic system. I know the staff is here: but the staff itself can be biased, this is not an attack against you, please be reassured, it is more factual than anything, we all have biases, and you are humans - you CAN be biased. You, yourself, have your opinions, your desires, etc., this will influence it. It WILL influence it. I'll have to take your opinions on our OF. Take of that what you will.

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Offline SnakThree
10-31-2023, 08:24 PM,
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Imagine how much harder it is to update laws now when it needs to be redone in some new fancy government chats for show. What a bunch of nonsense.

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Offline Traxit
10-31-2023, 08:47 PM,
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KuGov sent a comm.
It took a couple of days to be accepted.
As such, the comm never appeared on new posts.

Staff needed to be pinged.
Sender needed to be pinged because they didn't know it was approved.
Recipient would have missed it and also had to be pinged.

Sounds like a minor inconvenience until you realise this process took days because the lack of acknowledgement from all three parties, and lack of notification.
You've implemented some tricky inconvenient bureacracy.

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Offline Ashyur
10-31-2023, 08:50 PM,
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can be fixed by changing the time of the post when changing the visibility ?
Offline Lemon
10-31-2023, 09:20 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-31-2023, 09:22 PM by Lemon.)
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(10-31-2023, 08:50 PM)Deucalion Wrote: can be fixed by changing the time of the post when changing the visibility ?
Nice, clever - that'd fix it

Still it's a little annoying you can't see draft of laws when you edit copy of laws

staff need to approve copy of laws, then copy the copy of laws and copy it into the real laws and replace them with the approved copy of laws and approve in real laws.
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Offline Karst
10-31-2023, 09:25 PM,
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Literally just ping moderators.

We're not telepathic. We do not receive brainwave transfers when you make a post if you don't tell us that you did. Every post that we were pinged about was approved pretty much immediately.

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Offline Traxit
10-31-2023, 10:43 PM,
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(10-31-2023, 09:25 PM)Karst Wrote: Literally just ping moderators.

We're not telepathic. We do not receive brainwave transfers when you make a post if you don't tell us that you did. Every post that we were pinged about was approved pretty much immediately.

You introduced this half-baked system and now we see through the cracks. It falls upon your shoulders to make it better for everyone else, including yourselves. Taking a defensive stance is not the right way to go about this.

We've given you constructive criticism, and I don't think it takes a genius to figure out that some sort of automation needs to be set in place for the sake of convenience and speed.

Isn't this what the community was outraged about in the first place? I don't think the idea is bad, but the execution leaves more to be desired.

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Offline Saronsen
11-01-2023, 12:29 AM,
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"please ping us, we're not going to actually pay attention to anything, we merely exist as a half-assed stopgap to resolve perceived unfairness"
lol
Offline Kherty
11-01-2023, 12:39 AM,
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(10-31-2023, 09:25 PM)Karst Wrote: Literally just ping moderators.

For those who knows. You didn't reply to a ping did you?

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Offline SnakThree
11-02-2023, 07:44 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-02-2023, 07:44 AM by SnakThree.)
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What the hell is this:
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