Staff Feedback Thread

[Megaera]

Okay I guess we're doing this here then

Essentially the choice right now boils down to: Torch your Core 5 POB in order to keep your NPC station.

Did you not submit a canonisation request of said station before? Asking out of curiosity.

The request was never made overtly, but feelers were put out to the previous dev team as far as I can tell, and the opinion at the time was a resounding no. At least, that is what I can gather from the extant request threads and the developer discord - what overtures were made in working groups or DMs, I can't say. The custom model request was made, and approved by the staff team, and when it was passed on to implementation by the dev team, they basically decided to go ahead and make an NPC base essentially purely to make it easier to implement the model, because the alternative would be to actually, y'know, model the base.

Kinkaku-ji was never meant to be canonized, as far as I am aware. The fact that it ended up as an NPC base happened pretty much exclusively because the developers at the time were unable or unwilling to implement the change the way it should have been done (purely as a custom model). The current system of custom models (where the POB is simply one piece and several system objects are tacked onto it and parented, see: Isle of Skye, Nichols, etc.) is understandably untenable, because it means every systems change then has to involve admin work of moving the POBs in place, and it also likely causes issues with sieging those bases because the damage may not propagate properly. The only "proper" way to do this system would be to actually create a custom model (rather than stapling pieces together in the system INI), but that requires modeling work that is ever in short supply.

I made the suggestion of keeping the custom model on the POB - because that is what was requested - and recycling the NPC base into a drydock extension or something of the like, something that would be much lower impact but still maintain some of the story beats from KKJ that are acceptable by the story team, and maintain the same gameplay effects of having another ship sale point.

So it was a miscommunication and a screw up on all sides then. The general consensus at GC is that we prefer to keep the NPC station and canonise that completely. The whole thing is arguably as frustrating for the staff as it is for us.

It is a mess in general.

In any case, we want the Kinkaku-ji NPC base to persist, because the afformentioned reasons. You would have to replace the missing docking bay on the model though, but I am sure that won't be too much work. If we have to sacrifice the pob for that, then that would be the lesser evil. Not something I like, but if I have to swallow that to keep the NPC base standing, so be it.

It still feels like a problem the staff has created and I am now retroactively punished for. It was never an issue until now.

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Matriarch Of the Gen'an Chrysanthemums - Ishikawa Aya
Gen'an Cell Information - Recruitment - Communications Network

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Megaera - Ishikawa Masako
Feedback - Data Storage - Birth of a goddess

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[Megaera]

To add to the above:

KKJ was questioned as canon before, when I first attempted to get our cruisers, and I had to dispell it back then too:

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Matriarch Of the Gen'an Chrysanthemums - Ishikawa Aya
Gen'an Cell Information - Recruitment - Communications Network

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Megaera - Ishikawa Masako
Feedback - Data Storage - Birth of a goddess

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[The_Godslayer]

Blood dragons, Outcasts, GC, the occasional lane hacker, other freelancers who occasionally pass by.

It is true that the economy changes devaluated it, but it still is a prime staging area for raids, with good missions. Out of all GC bases, it is the most used by far. Preferably I would like to see its smuggling routes return as well of course, but the economy as a whole needs work.

My question was unclear. In terms of story/logistics, what purpose does it serve that Noshima for unlaw-quasilaw and Golden Dragon for law-quasilaw don't serve? Noshima is the smuggling/unlawful staging point, and Golden Dragon is the smuggling/lawful staging point. KKJ was the production point for the cardamine tea, and it was a Chrysanthemum base, but in other points it's just a Noshima that isn't nice for quasi-lawfuls to James Bond at because everyone who's going to be there is absolutely going to be unlawful.

I'm all for canonization of the base if it can serve a good purpose in the system. The tea needs to come back tbh.

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I'll do something about my superiority complex when I cease to be superior.

"Whatever happened to catchin' a good old-fashioned passionate ass-whoopin and gettin' your shoes, coat, and your hat tooken?"

[Jayenbee]

Dylan Hunt isn't a widely recognized character, as only one person in the community seems to know its origin (shoutout to you, bro <3).

You wound me.
Any self-respecting Sci-Fi nerd has at least heard of these; Babylon 5, Andromeda, Farscape, V, Star Trek, Stargate, Star Wars.

Your continued existence was thanks to the graces of people like me who didn't care to stamp on your parade, despite it being obviously rule breaking. The fact you knowingly continued to break the rule was done so at your own peril.

Edit: Kudos to the Staff for finally having a spine to enforce this rule. It's been brought up in the past, but people have never wanted to touch it, for fear of reprisal or something.

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When contending with a monster, you'd be wise to give the devil his due.

[Chronicron]

It's been well over a month since I submitted my dev application and I haven't heard a word since. If you won't process people's applications, then at least have the decency to tell them "no".

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[The_Godslayer]

then at least have the decency to tell them "no".

Please. I know the answer is no every time, but actually getting a no at least lets me stop paying attention to DMs and random forum posts.

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I'll do something about my superiority complex when I cease to be superior.

"Whatever happened to catchin' a good old-fashioned passionate ass-whoopin and gettin' your shoes, coat, and your hat tooken?"

[Major.]

It's been well over a month since I submitted my dev application and I haven't heard a word since. If you won't process people's applications, then at least have the decency to tell them "no".

Give this man a answer.

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[SnakThree]

Staff, do you think that new government oversight was beneficial now that some time have passed?

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[SnakThree]

Very inactive staff, can't respond to feedback. Should probably lose official status.

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[NOVA-5]

Spec savers would be a start.