If you have to come here to complain about what majority of Discovery does on a daily basis maybe you should step away and reconsider.
We are trying to keep it as fair as possible and frankly, with the rest of forces present in the fight, I do not believe the complaint has any justification whatsoever.
Sorry for your negative experience, come back when you have something meaningful to bring to the table.
(10-18-2024, 09:41 PM)Nika Wrote: We are trying to keep it as fair as possible and frankly, with the rest of forces present in the fight, I do not believe the complaint has any justification whatsoever.
I was well removed from the initial fight with a singular indie missileboat, and effectively dry. The forces present were myself and the indie. Bomber versus vandal gunboat is already a loosing fight.
However, if it's simply beneath you, I understand. You may disregard.
I'll do something about my superiority complex when I cease to be superior.
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While the circumstances of the engagement made it rules-legal, I do think it's in indescribably bad taste for you and your assorted indies to drop two gunboats (one of which is Solaris), a Vidar, and a fighter onto a lone (fleeing) fighter, while also taunting said fighter about how it can pay to live but not providing an opportunity for the player in question to stop dodging in order to accept the offer. If this is how you'll be conducting yourselves at events within your ZOI, don't expect anyone to show up to any event within your ZOI.
I am going to assume you were the "Novemberist", if not this still applies to your feedback.
So, how the events transpired:
We have a full armada of hessians on stand-by, we secure the cargo from the (un)willing Junker. Two of the Rotfront ships CD the junker liner who was trying to escape, not realizing we had the cargo at that point. They didn't shoot, but they were shot back by RV-Pennybrooke, at which point they retaliated with some salvos before pulling out as they were ordered to stand down. And then you started shooting them, while the BHG started separately to shoot down our liner.
Next, you're lying out of your ass about Rotfront's involvement in your surrender proposition or whatever the indies were cooking there, I will gracefully point you to the second video where it clearly shows there were none of our ships. The only ship in the vicinity during the proposition was "Gotha" over 25k away. So let's get this straight, you come here to whine about something we were not involved in, while there were hessians, LWB and coalition indies involved, some of them tagged. Yet, you come here to complain.
Just in case you were "Mesrine", who had a separate surrender proposition from the indie, the ship cruised away right after said proposition was made, so your point still doesn't hold up.
Good thing we constantly record everything, isn't it?
I'm not saying Rotfront is perfect, there is no such thing. We are involved sometimes in drama BECAUSE we're one of the most, if not the most, combat active faction right now and have been for a while, its bound to happen. We are not afraid to take fights with fewer man or to stand by when the odds are too in favour for us. I'd like to take this opportunity to also thank the reliable group of indies that always show up to our fights, it proves people DO want to get involved with us. Kudos to you.
But, coming back to you and your feedback that has no basis to even exist in this thread. Overall, very egregious behavior coming from you, especially given your prestigious role in the community. Yes, it was rules-legal, we know it very well. If you're salty, please consult the ganking policy "common cases 1 & 2" which you should be a standard of, and get over it.
TLDR, to put it in a beautiful quote for your "feedback" here as well.
Junker and R\-Vogn just did a cargo transfer in the middle of that? Like...as people were talking, did the transfer? No RP or anything, which folks were doing before to move the personnel off the liner to the Junker in the first place?
Man, here I was thinking it was afterwards, when everyone had gotten distracted with the shooting.
That's kinda dirty to be honest, at least in my opinion. It was set as a precedent that moving personnel from one ship to another took something of RP, especially since they were the whole point. Should have at least had a few lines in the middle of that on rapid movement between the two ships.
(08-12-2025, 08:01 AM)Shulsky Wrote: Wait a moment.
Junker and R\-Vogn just did a cargo transfer in the middle of that? Like...as people were talking, did the transfer? No RP or anything, which folks were doing before to move the personnel off the liner to the Junker in the first place?
Man, here I was thinking it was afterwards, when everyone had gotten distracted with the shooting.
That's kinda dirty to be honest, at least in my opinion. It was set as a precedent that moving personnel from one ship to another took something of RP, especially since they were the whole point. Should have at least had a few lines in the middle of that on rapid movement between the two ships.
Tbh, I (Vogn) came late to the party and was not aware of the whole thing going on, i was pinged that we need a liner to conduct a piracy.
There was rp for it, but i guess it was not up to your standard. I could've done better if I had known the preamble.
Nevertheless, nobody brought the fact we need special shuttles or whatever during it. You were there, you could've.
[11.08.2025 21:33:35] R\-Vogn: RO: We'll take the people off you.
[11.08.2025 21:33:36] Acosma: ?: Radi[']#[ failing. Reactor leaks con[[']%*. Limited ti[']#l/. Get them home safely, ple[']##
[11.08.2025 21:33:38] SCRA|Vadim.Biryukov: I don't think you have anything that could help them. Except junk.
[11.08.2025 21:33:46] R\-Vogn: RO: Or you will all remain here, as mementos.
[11.08.2025 21:33:46] Mesrine: Here it comes...
[11.08.2025 21:33:47] GK|Grga.Pitik`: This is a rescue operation lass! Nobody pays us anything!
[11.08.2025 21:33:47] RV-Pennybrooke: Baden-Baden or Freistadt in O-7 should be the destination.
[11.08.2025 21:33:50] R\-Gotha: Hand those people to us right now
[11.08.2025 21:34:02] Bessie-"Bison"-Bishop: Wait a second what?
[11.08.2025 21:34:03] Tears|RHC-Sierpinski: Elster: Good point. Liner will be fine for them.
[11.08.2025 21:34:12] The.Yellow.Fly: Cooper: Few credits don' seem too bad compared to the alternative. 'Sides - Rad damage *this* bad's gonna cost a pretty to fix~
[11.08.2025 21:34:30] SCRA|Vadim.Biryukov: Junker, I think you have your own task on these passengers.
[11.08.2025 21:34:42] R\-Vogn: RO: We'll take the cargo junker, we have a perfect spot for these people on Vogtland.
[11.08.2025 21:34:44] GK|Grga.Pitik`: We're waiting for the captain!
[11.08.2025 21:34:45] Novemberist: This is Novemberist to Acosma RTO, I can provide evac for you alone, repeat, evac is available for you alone.
[11.08.2025 21:35:08] Acosma: [Metal flakes begin peeling off the underside of the Yacht vessel as the radiation shielding begins to fail.
[11.08.2025 21:35:10] RV-Pennybrooke: I don't think so. Your tone does not suggest amicable accomodation.
[11.08.2025 21:35:11] Novemberist: Nobody has to die here.
[11.08.2025 21:35:11] GK|Grga.Pitik`: Whats that Hessians? You're in need of working hands?
[11.08.2025 21:35:14] R\-Vogn: RO: Proceed with the transfer, that's a threat.
[11.08.2025 21:35:18] R\-Gotha: Junker! handover those people to Vogn
[11.08.2025 21:35:21] Bessie-"Bison"-Bishop: Hey they barely got them folks out of there in the first place. Let's get the Junker to port.
[11.08.2025 21:35:24] R\-Verfolgerin: It is best that you surrender the Cargo. You don't stand a chance!
[11.08.2025 21:35:25] Bessie-"Bison"-Bishop: What the flyin fuck are you doing?
[11.08.2025 21:35:45] SCRA|Vadim.Biryukov: Junker, you are not in position to make your way of negotiations.
[11.08.2025 21:35:46] B|-BCV-Tumu-Ra'i-Fenua: ?: Hunters, request you give some firepower on Hessian "Vogn"
[11.08.2025 21:35:50] Tears|RHC-Sierpinski: Elster: Ja, junker, get the hell out of here, not your home to command in. We will deal with it.
[11.08.2025 21:35:52] Acosma: ?: Th[']'##, but it's too la[']%* for me. Get th[';# home safe.
[11.08.2025 21:35:52] Farms.Away: CO: I'd listen to them if I were you.
[11.08.2025 21:35:53] RV-Pennybrooke: Hessians, these are civilians under duress.
[11.08.2025 21:35:54] Mesrine: We are not payed.
[11.08.2025 21:36:06] GK|Grga.Pitik`: Who the hell do you think supplies your asses?
[11.08.2025 21:36:07] Novemberist: Understood, Acosma RTO.
[11.08.2025 21:36:09] B|-BCV-Tumu-Ra'i-Fenua: ?: What, Rheinlanders don't pay you for killing Hessians anymore?
[11.08.2025 21:36:11] R\-Vogn: RO: We'll take good care of them, dont you worry.
[11.08.2025 21:36:11] Novemberist: Go with honor.
[11.08.2025 21:36:11] GK|Grga.Pitik`: The Molly Godmother?
[11.08.2025 21:36:13] Bessie-"Bison"-Bishop: There's more than enough bounties on Hessians.
[11.08.2025 21:36:19] Bessie-"Bison"-Bishop: Hessians would you back off.
[11.08.2025 21:36:36] R\-Gotha: Either hand those or pay 2 mills
[11.08.2025 21:36:36] Bessie-"Bison"-Bishop: This is a damn rescue mission you psychopaths.
[11.08.2025 21:36:41] R\-Verfolgerin: Keep out of this Bounty hunter.
[11.08.2025 21:36:44] SCRA|Vadim.Biryukov: Hunter, your opinion don't count.
[11.08.2025 21:36:44] R\-Vogn: RO: Good deal junker.
[11.08.2025 21:36:51] GK|Grga.Pitik`: Not my ass on the line.
[11.08.2025 21:36:52] R\-Vogn: RO: You value your life.