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NOTICE: Pobs in Nomad Systems
Offline IahimD
12-23-2024, 01:58 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-23-2024, 01:59 PM by IahimD.)
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(12-23-2024, 12:48 PM)Seapanda Wrote: This isn't space GTA. Violating the game lore and ID restrictions for the sake of "generating server activity" is a lazy excuse for what essentially is POB spamming.

As the original post says, it's out not outright banned though. If you want to put a POB there to farm PvE encounters, you are welcome to provide the appropriate amount of RP to justify that move in an SRP.
I also don't have any stakes in this, but how are those PoBs different to this one? I don't care about either PoB, I don't mind either one, but where is the line with "breaking the immersion"? Cuz you cannot tell me this is a fully immersive PoB. Or do nomad systems have a special treatment because some people cry harder? But than Omicron Kappa had no human base in it in vanilla and look at it now, no? So nomad words do be getting colonized by humans.
Offline Seapanda
12-23-2024, 02:09 PM,
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(12-23-2024, 01:58 PM)IahimD Wrote:
(12-23-2024, 12:48 PM)Seapanda Wrote: This isn't space GTA. Violating the game lore and ID restrictions for the sake of "generating server activity" is a lazy excuse for what essentially is POB spamming.

As the original post says, it's out not outright banned though. If you want to put a POB there to farm PvE encounters, you are welcome to provide the appropriate amount of RP to justify that move in an SRP.
I also don't have any stakes in this, but how are those PoBs different to this one? I don't care about either PoB, I don't mind either one, but where is the line with "breaking the immersion"? Cuz you cannot tell me this is a fully immersive PoB. Or do nomad systems have a special treatment because some people cry harder? But than Omicron Kappa had no human base in it in vanilla and look at it now, no? So nomad words do be getting colonized by humans.

The PoB you linked will get looked into, thanks for that.

And sure, Kappa had no presence before, but it does now. I'm sure something similar could be made for some other nomad systems if one can come up with RP for it. Like it was said in the OP, spamming bases just to farm a PVE encounter is not okay. Create a story around it, write RP about it, submit an SRP to have a POB built there. Make it at least make some sense.
Offline Stoner_Steve
12-23-2024, 02:10 PM,
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I believe that the Nomad worlds should be inrp beyond difficult to build in, evidenced by the lack of any human (non-infested) stations. Realistically it is only a few minutes from Freeport 11 to the main battlefield, even less if you choose to base from a Core/Order station so this shouldn't be considered game breaking

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Offline Reeves
12-23-2024, 02:17 PM,
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Offline IahimD
12-23-2024, 02:18 PM,
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(12-23-2024, 02:09 PM)Seapanda Wrote:
(12-23-2024, 01:58 PM)IahimD Wrote:
(12-23-2024, 12:48 PM)Seapanda Wrote: This isn't space GTA. Violating the game lore and ID restrictions for the sake of "generating server activity" is a lazy excuse for what essentially is POB spamming.

As the original post says, it's out not outright banned though. If you want to put a POB there to farm PvE encounters, you are welcome to provide the appropriate amount of RP to justify that move in an SRP.
I also don't have any stakes in this, but how are those PoBs different to this one? I don't care about either PoB, I don't mind either one, but where is the line with "breaking the immersion"? Cuz you cannot tell me this is a fully immersive PoB. Or do nomad systems have a special treatment because some people cry harder? But than Omicron Kappa had no human base in it in vanilla and look at it now, no? So nomad words do be getting colonized by humans.

The PoB you linked will get looked into, thanks for that.

And sure, Kappa had no presence before, but it does now. I'm sure something similar could be made for some other nomad systems if one can come up with RP for it. Like it was said in the OP, spamming bases just to farm a PVE encounter is not okay. Create a story around it, write RP about it, submit an SRP to have a POB built there. Make it at least make some sense.

Which rule is violated by any of these PoBs? And what is the guarantee that if some RP is done, nomads won't just blow that PoB to pieces (the same as what they can do with the current ones)? Would people need to SRP each PoB and stay at the mercy of the backlog each time until their SPR gets approved or whatever? In a perfect world, yes, RP can be done, but there aren't even some guidelines by which one can judge which is acceptable RP and which isn't (to get an SRP approved). So time wasted for nothing. Why is a valuable encounter there (in terms of equipment is drops) in the first place if people "shouldn't be there"?
Offline IahimD
12-23-2024, 02:20 PM,
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(12-23-2024, 02:10 PM)Stoner_Steve Wrote: I believe that the Nomad worlds should be inrp beyond difficult to build in, evidenced by the lack of any human (non-infested) stations. Realistically it is only a few minutes from Freeport 11 to the main battlefield, even less if you choose to base from a Core/Order station so this shouldn't be considered game breaking
But it is hard, no? Because holiday mode is active only a few days a year. The rest of the time, the PoBs need supplies which are rather difficult to get there. As for the realistic side, I didn't see anyone suggesting how people can get caps in there to farm the encounter without being battered by the nomad defenses that are hardcoded there.
Offline Perfect Gentleman
12-23-2024, 02:20 PM,
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I'll throw in my five cents, anyone mind?

Why was this encounter created in Iota in the first place? What's the reasoning behind it all? And who will continue to do anything there after this notice? Wasn't Zeta a better option? It would have suited absolutely all parties.

At this rate, people will simply stop visiting Iota, as it's simply not cost-effective for them. Traveling a great distance for a difficult battle with a dubious prize and high risk of encountering not only an NPCs but also a Nomad player is something I personally would never do.
Offline Reeves
12-23-2024, 02:23 PM,
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(12-23-2024, 02:18 PM)IahimD Wrote: what is the guarantee that if some RP is done, nomads won't just blow that PoB to pieces

There isn't one because you aren't owed one. The only exceptions where pobs are tolerated in certain places is either by being compliant, useful, or hilariously well defended. Outside of those cases you're always open season for factions that take issue with uninvited guests and that's just how it is.

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Offline HUMPHRESS
12-23-2024, 02:23 PM,
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Personally I think that on the surface the changes is good, but I dont think having an encounter in such a system is.

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Offline IahimD
12-23-2024, 02:25 PM,
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(12-23-2024, 02:23 PM)Reeves Wrote:
(12-23-2024, 02:18 PM)IahimD Wrote: what is the guarantee that if some RP is done, nomads won't just blow that PoB to pieces

There isn't one because you aren't owed one. The only exceptions where pobs are tolerated in certain places is either by being compliant, useful, or hilariously well defended. Outside of those cases you're always open season for factions that take issue with uninvited guests and that's just how it is.
Perfect, absolutely agree. Than let nomads blow these other PoBs to the ground also! But don't ban it outright because is doen't suit some people.
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