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Announcement: OF Mining Bonuses
Offline TheKusari
07-25-2025, 02:12 AM,
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(07-25-2025, 12:58 AM)TheSauron Wrote: The final outcome is functionally the same

Incorrect. Reducing one isn't the same as increasing the other. The difference in the result is the same where functionally they are still different.



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Offline TheSauron
07-25-2025, 02:28 AM,
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(07-25-2025, 02:12 AM)TheKusari Wrote:
(07-25-2025, 12:58 AM)TheSauron Wrote: The final outcome is functionally the same

Incorrect. Reducing one isn't the same as increasing the other. The difference in the result is the same where functionally they are still different.

They are functionally the same because econ would obviously tinker with the ore drop rates to achieve the desired baseline output. I figured that part did not have to be spelled out explicitly.

My remarks are more about the public perception of the change, anyway. People don't like seeing number go down. They like to see number go up. If you have to tweak something, do it through number go up whenever you can.


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Offline Lord Caedus
07-25-2025, 04:37 AM,
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(07-25-2025, 02:28 AM)TheSauron Wrote:
(07-25-2025, 02:12 AM)TheKusari Wrote:
(07-25-2025, 12:58 AM)TheSauron Wrote: The final outcome is functionally the same

Incorrect. Reducing one isn't the same as increasing the other. The difference in the result is the same where functionally they are still different.

They are functionally the same because econ would obviously tinker with the ore drop rates to achieve the desired baseline output. I figured that part did not have to be spelled out explicitly.

My remarks are more about the public perception of the change, anyway. People don't like seeing number go down. They like to see number go up. If you have to tweak something, do it through number go up whenever you can.

If they were really that worried about public perception they'd have just rolled the change out without announcing it.

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Offline TheSauron
07-25-2025, 11:15 AM,
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Because that worked incredibly well with the unannounced mass changes that people are yet to notice and be upset about.


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Offline Anguirus
07-25-2025, 12:18 PM,
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I fail to see to see significance in this change. The previous logic was 4 is 1 more than 3 so it's a nice little perk. Looking too deep into it just turns this into a trivial topic. Muh 33% mining perk going into my 25% refinery discount into my other 20% discount for ship component building. Make me big cha ching dolla dolla. Players already make so much money through other means. A specified groups ability to supply a base with material through a boost in mining has little significance in economy and was meant for convenience.

I understand the point of fairness, coming from an OF leader who had to RP for both CR IDs to get a 3x mining bonus on a single ore. As well as a non existent refinery bonus. Kinda cheaping =CR= out. I guess the =CR= ID is finally getting a buff to make it different from the indie ID. Now here's hoping for a refinery bonus bb.

I think the change to some IDs may have caused a bug. Have fun looking through them all to find out which
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Offline firesilver
07-25-2025, 12:29 PM,
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(07-25-2025, 12:18 PM)Anguirus Wrote: I think the change to some IDs may have caused a bug. Have fun looking through them all to find out which
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That does appear to be quite the bug. I will raise this and get it sorted Smile
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Offline NOVA-5
07-25-2025, 12:37 PM,
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Really i've hit 3 bugs never seen before since this mornings server restart, well done boys.
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Offline Haste
07-25-2025, 12:42 PM,
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(07-25-2025, 12:37 PM)NOVA-5 Wrote: Really i've hit 3 bugs never seen before since this mornings server restart, well done boys.

Obviously all caused by the incredibly damaging act of changing the text on tractor beam infocards.

Please be so kind as to post the bugs you experienced here so we can fix them. Thanks!

XML should be fixed.

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Online Lemon
07-25-2025, 02:06 PM,
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Looks reasonable, less paperwork and having to sift through data is always good
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Offline StellarViss
07-25-2025, 04:39 PM,
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Attention, my fellow miners.

During the talk about the rework of the Official faction mining bonus it was decided that IMG's mining bonuses would be too powerful with them having the more mining bonuses then other factions so IMG both indie and official lost the ability to mine diamonds.
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