Would you be as fast as you demanded payment and process my license application?
Especially when a siege is happening and your side is totally ignoring an SOS help transmission? What exactly do players gain from paying you and the government that you represent, money for a license?
No response, no backup, no RP ..... what exactly is that?
Alright let's clear a few things up, since you seem to be struggling to understand how things actually work around here.
Firstly, the [LN] player faction does not make unilateral decisions about when to make posts on the Liberty Government account. Due to IRL issues, people that are a part of the decision making process have been unavailable to make forum posts, and as such your posts have had to wait. You'll get a response when you get one, but needlessly bumping a thread every day and then posting in a faction's feedback about a Government issue is not going to help you in any capacity. If making posts as LibGov were entirely up to [LN], your post would've been processed within hours, but due to the systems put in place to make it so people cannot uniltaterally make decisions, that isn't possible.
Second, we as a faction are under no obligation to respond to your thread, a thread which you didn't even bother to post until several days into the siege. If you had genuinely wanted assistance, you should've contacted people before the siege actually started, that way we could've told you that basically nobody would be able to defend your base at the time you selected for the vulnerability window. The majority of [LN]'s playerbase (and 46th's for that matter) are European, and unavailable to attend a siege at such a poorly chosen time. What few players are available are logging, as evidenced by the fact that the base has been defended more often than not, but most of them are doing it on IDs that can actually claim a bounty for the efforts, as with such an inconvenient siege window, most players want to be at least compensated for attending.
Lastly, most of the playerbase hates taking part in sieges, particularly in sieges they have no stake in. Sieges go one of two ways without a fault. You either get no defenders at all because the base is completely worthless and nobody can be bothered to defend it, or you get a base siege that sparks a bunch of ooRP flaming and salt over something that doesn't matter at all the minute the base either explodes or gets to the point that it can't die anymore.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Alright let's clear a few things up, since you seem to be struggling to understand how things actually work around here.
I am not struggling to understand how things are going. I am a member of the Bretonia government, and things are not done in the way of a Liberty government at all. There is no such weak excuse for not doing your duty as a government member.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Firstly, the [LN] player faction does not make unilateral decisions about when to make posts on the Liberty Government account. Due to IRL issues,
This is your problem, and not mine, so if you have issues with people being absent, then designate and delegate or reform the structure by using the active members and not ignore it.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: people that are a part of the decision making process have been unavailable to make forum posts, and as such your posts have had to wait. You'll get a response when you get one,[/quote[
Again, that is your problem and not mine, so if you have people who can't make forum posts, then assign those who can, instead of delaying and ignoring messages towards the navy and the gov... If you still can't, then step down and let those who can do their job.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: but needlessly bumping a thread every day and then posting in a faction's feedback about a Government issue is not going to help you in any capacity. If making posts as LibGov were entirely up to [LN], your post would've been processed within hours, but due to the systems put in place to make it so people cannot uniltaterally make decisions, that isn't possible.
If you can't take feedback, then don't make a feedback thread, and bumping an ignored transmission calling for backup in times of siege is normal, since you are not doing your job.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Second, we as a faction are under no obligation to respond to your thread, a thread which you didn't even bother to post until several days into the siege. If you had genuinely wanted assistance, you should've contacted people before the siege actually started, that way we could've told you that basically nobody would be able to defend your base at the time you selected for the vulnerability window.
As the navy, you are obliged to respond, even saying that you cannot come, but you choose to ignore it totally.
The message was sent to the Navy after I settled down what the Navy sent me from a threatening and siege declaration... Are you with us on the same server? Or playing somewhere else lol. Also, the players from the navy are from all time zones, so the ones from the timezone that matches the siege window can join, but you decided not to answer at all. This is not good at all. You are not doing your job and giving shitty excuses that make no sense at all.
In the end, i just want to let you know that you are worthless, and what you did is that you threatened to destroy my base over some tiny incomplete paperwork which could have been completed so easy, but you dont want that to happen, You want a problem to happen, I dont know why such hate exists through a game like discovery, but this is sick and you really need to reconsider your actions.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Alright let's clear a few things up, since you seem to be struggling to understand how things actually work around here.
I am not struggling to understand how things are going. I am a member of the Bretonia government, and things are not done in the way of a Liberty government at all. There is no such weak excuse for not doing your duty as a government member.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Firstly, the [LN] player faction does not make unilateral decisions about when to make posts on the Liberty Government account. Due to IRL issues,
This is your problem, and not mine, so if you have issues with people being absent, then designate and delegate or reform the structure by using the active members and not ignore it.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: people that are a part of the decision making process have been unavailable to make forum posts, and as such your posts have had to wait. You'll get a response when you get one,[/quote[
Again, that is your problem and not mine, so if you have people who can't make forum posts, then assign those who can, instead of delaying and ignoring messages towards the navy and the gov... If you still can't, then step down and let those who can do their job.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: but needlessly bumping a thread every day and then posting in a faction's feedback about a Government issue is not going to help you in any capacity. If making posts as LibGov were entirely up to [LN], your post would've been processed within hours, but due to the systems put in place to make it so people cannot uniltaterally make decisions, that isn't possible.
If you can't take feedback, then don't make a feedback thread, and bumping an ignored transmission calling for backup in times of siege is normal, since you are not doing your job.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Second, we as a faction are under no obligation to respond to your thread, a thread which you didn't even bother to post until several days into the siege. If you had genuinely wanted assistance, you should've contacted people before the siege actually started, that way we could've told you that basically nobody would be able to defend your base at the time you selected for the vulnerability window.
As the navy, you are obliged to respond, even saying that you cannot come, but you choose to ignore it totally.
The message was sent to the Navy after I settled down what the Navy sent me from a threatening and siege declaration... Are you with us on the same server? Or playing somewhere else lol. Also, the players from the navy are from all time zones, so the ones from the timezone that matches the siege window can join, but you decided not to answer at all. This is not good at all. You are not doing your job and giving shitty excuses that make no sense at all.
In the end, i just want to let you know that you are worthless, and what you did is that you threatened to destroy my base over some tiny incomplete paperwork which could have been completed so easy, but you dont want that to happen, You want a problem to happen, I dont know why such hate exists through a game like discovery, but this is sick and you really need to reconsider your actions.
The players that have been available to log to defend your base have been. Again, not our fault you picked a terrible siege window. We're under no obligation to make posts about defending your base when we have people actively defending it.
If you were actually an active part of Bret Gov you'd know that the Staff decides how house Govs function, not the factions that are a part of them. We don't determine who actually participates in Lib Gov, that's a staff issue. If you have a problem with it go complain at them.
This is a thread for feedback on the [LN] Liberty Navy faction, not the Government or the Staff. If you have issues with them, go post there. Your complaints have been addressed, if you don't like the answers you got, that's on you, not on us.
@Xenon Respectfully, I feel you're being overly critical in a very specific Faction Feedback thread. LibGov has a Feedback and Reminder thread for this very purpose and such posts would be better suited there, rather than aimed directly at a single faction.
As BretGov, you are aware of the due process that is undertook with every, single decision that is made. No, a single person within doesn't have autonomy and is generally frowned upon. Sure, 46th|, [LN] and [DSE] constitute LibGov, of which most of us are busy with real-life responsibilties, which does cause delays in responses and closing votes.
Kindly redirect your concerns there. Alternatively, happy for you to PM me.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Alright let's clear a few things up, since you seem to be struggling to understand how things actually work around here.
I am not struggling to understand how things are going. I am a member of the Bretonia government, and things are not done in the way of a Liberty government at all. There is no such weak excuse for not doing your duty as a government member.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Firstly, the [LN] player faction does not make unilateral decisions about when to make posts on the Liberty Government account. Due to IRL issues,
This is your problem, and not mine, so if you have issues with people being absent, then designate and delegate or reform the structure by using the active members and not ignore it.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: people that are a part of the decision making process have been unavailable to make forum posts, and as such your posts have had to wait. You'll get a response when you get one,[/quote[
Again, that is your problem and not mine, so if you have people who can't make forum posts, then assign those who can, instead of delaying and ignoring messages towards the navy and the gov... If you still can't, then step down and let those who can do their job.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: but needlessly bumping a thread every day and then posting in a faction's feedback about a Government issue is not going to help you in any capacity. If making posts as LibGov were entirely up to [LN], your post would've been processed within hours, but due to the systems put in place to make it so people cannot uniltaterally make decisions, that isn't possible.
If you can't take feedback, then don't make a feedback thread, and bumping an ignored transmission calling for backup in times of siege is normal, since you are not doing your job.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Second, we as a faction are under no obligation to respond to your thread, a thread which you didn't even bother to post until several days into the siege. If you had genuinely wanted assistance, you should've contacted people before the siege actually started, that way we could've told you that basically nobody would be able to defend your base at the time you selected for the vulnerability window.
As the navy, you are obliged to respond, even saying that you cannot come, but you choose to ignore it totally.
The message was sent to the Navy after I settled down what the Navy sent me from a threatening and siege declaration... Are you with us on the same server? Or playing somewhere else lol. Also, the players from the navy are from all time zones, so the ones from the timezone that matches the siege window can join, but you decided not to answer at all. This is not good at all. You are not doing your job and giving shitty excuses that make no sense at all.
In the end, i just want to let you know that you are worthless, and what you did is that you threatened to destroy my base over some tiny incomplete paperwork which could have been completed so easy, but you dont want that to happen, You want a problem to happen, I dont know why such hate exists through a game like discovery, but this is sick and you really need to reconsider your actions.
The players that have been available to log to defend your base have been. Again, not our fault you picked a terrible siege window. We're under no obligation to make posts about defending your base when we have people actively defending it.
If you were actually an active part of Bret Gov you'd know that the Staff decides how house Govs function, not the factions that are a part of them. We don't determine who actually participates in Lib Gov, that's a staff issue. If you have a problem with it go complain at them.
This is a thread for feedback on the [LN] Liberty Navy faction, not the Government or the Staff. If you have issues with them, go post there. Your complaints have been addressed, if you don't like the answers you got, that's on you, not on us.
I can see that you are going in circles to evade your duty.
The Navy threatened to destroy my base and threatened to do so in 24 hours if I didn't resend the application for the license.
Then you ignored the call for backup. You didn't say whether you are coming or not coming, just ignored it.
Please use common sense and stop going in circles.
Anyway, I know that this is useless, since I am very sure that the motivation behind all this crap is not RP or gaming
Maybe it was my fault to post here since it's useless, but I am glad the entire community can see you clearly now.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Alright let's clear a few things up, since you seem to be struggling to understand how things actually work around here.
I am not struggling to understand how things are going. I am a member of the Bretonia government, and things are not done in the way of a Liberty government at all. There is no such weak excuse for not doing your duty as a government member.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Firstly, the [LN] player faction does not make unilateral decisions about when to make posts on the Liberty Government account. Due to IRL issues,
This is your problem, and not mine, so if you have issues with people being absent, then designate and delegate or reform the structure by using the active members and not ignore it.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: people that are a part of the decision making process have been unavailable to make forum posts, and as such your posts have had to wait. You'll get a response when you get one,[/quote[
Again, that is your problem and not mine, so if you have people who can't make forum posts, then assign those who can, instead of delaying and ignoring messages towards the navy and the gov... If you still can't, then step down and let those who can do their job.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: but needlessly bumping a thread every day and then posting in a faction's feedback about a Government issue is not going to help you in any capacity. If making posts as LibGov were entirely up to [LN], your post would've been processed within hours, but due to the systems put in place to make it so people cannot uniltaterally make decisions, that isn't possible.
If you can't take feedback, then don't make a feedback thread, and bumping an ignored transmission calling for backup in times of siege is normal, since you are not doing your job.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Second, we as a faction are under no obligation to respond to your thread, a thread which you didn't even bother to post until several days into the siege. If you had genuinely wanted assistance, you should've contacted people before the siege actually started, that way we could've told you that basically nobody would be able to defend your base at the time you selected for the vulnerability window.
As the navy, you are obliged to respond, even saying that you cannot come, but you choose to ignore it totally.
The message was sent to the Navy after I settled down what the Navy sent me from a threatening and siege declaration... Are you with us on the same server? Or playing somewhere else lol. Also, the players from the navy are from all time zones, so the ones from the timezone that matches the siege window can join, but you decided not to answer at all. This is not good at all. You are not doing your job and giving shitty excuses that make no sense at all.
In the end, i just want to let you know that you are worthless, and what you did is that you threatened to destroy my base over some tiny incomplete paperwork which could have been completed so easy, but you dont want that to happen, You want a problem to happen, I dont know why such hate exists through a game like discovery, but this is sick and you really need to reconsider your actions.
The players that have been available to log to defend your base have been. Again, not our fault you picked a terrible siege window. We're under no obligation to make posts about defending your base when we have people actively defending it.
If you were actually an active part of Bret Gov you'd know that the Staff decides how house Govs function, not the factions that are a part of them. We don't determine who actually participates in Lib Gov, that's a staff issue. If you have a problem with it go complain at them.
This is a thread for feedback on the [LN] Liberty Navy faction, not the Government or the Staff. If you have issues with them, go post there. Your complaints have been addressed, if you don't like the answers you got, that's on you, not on us.
I can see that you are going in circles to evade your duty.
The Navy threatened to destroy my base and threatened to do so in 24 hours if I didn't resend the application for the license.
Then you ignored the call for backup. You didn't say whether you are coming or not coming, just ignored it.
Please use common sense and stop going in circles.
Anyway, I know that this is useless, since I am very sure that the motivation behind all this crap is not RP or gaming
Maybe it was my fault to post here since it's useless, but I am glad the entire community can see you clearly now.
So what, we're supposed to post saying we're going to send people that aren't available to log? If we did that you'd just be in here complaining that we promised to defend your base, but then didn't have anyone log to do it. You brought this upon yourself by picking an absolutely awful siege window for everyone involved, please stop acting like it is somehow a single faction's responsibility to defend your base when almost everyone that plays the game is asleep.
(09-10-2025, 09:45 PM)TheDoctorXI Wrote: @Xenon Respectfully, I feel you're being overly critical in a very specific Faction Feedback thread. LibGov has a Feedback and Reminder thread for this very purpose and such posts would be better suited there, rather than aimed directly at a single faction.
As BretGov, you are aware of the due process that is undertook with every, single decision that is made. No, a single person within doesn't have autonomy and is generally frowned upon. Sure, 46th|, [LN] and [DSE] constitute LibGov, of which most of us are busy with real-life responsibilties, which does cause delays in responses and closing votes.
Kindly redirect your concerns there. Alternatively, happy for you to PM me.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Alright let's clear a few things up, since you seem to be struggling to understand how things actually work around here.
I am not struggling to understand how things are going. I am a member of the Bretonia government, and things are not done in the way of a Liberty government at all. There is no such weak excuse for not doing your duty as a government member.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Firstly, the [LN] player faction does not make unilateral decisions about when to make posts on the Liberty Government account. Due to IRL issues,
This is your problem, and not mine, so if you have issues with people being absent, then designate and delegate or reform the structure by using the active members and not ignore it.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: people that are a part of the decision making process have been unavailable to make forum posts, and as such your posts have had to wait. You'll get a response when you get one,[/quote[
Again, that is your problem and not mine, so if you have people who can't make forum posts, then assign those who can, instead of delaying and ignoring messages towards the navy and the gov... If you still can't, then step down and let those who can do their job.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: but needlessly bumping a thread every day and then posting in a faction's feedback about a Government issue is not going to help you in any capacity. If making posts as LibGov were entirely up to [LN], your post would've been processed within hours, but due to the systems put in place to make it so people cannot uniltaterally make decisions, that isn't possible.
If you can't take feedback, then don't make a feedback thread, and bumping an ignored transmission calling for backup in times of siege is normal, since you are not doing your job.
(09-10-2025, 09:00 PM)Liberty Navy Wrote: Second, we as a faction are under no obligation to respond to your thread, a thread which you didn't even bother to post until several days into the siege. If you had genuinely wanted assistance, you should've contacted people before the siege actually started, that way we could've told you that basically nobody would be able to defend your base at the time you selected for the vulnerability window.
As the navy, you are obliged to respond, even saying that you cannot come, but you choose to ignore it totally.
The message was sent to the Navy after I settled down what the Navy sent me from a threatening and siege declaration... Are you with us on the same server? Or playing somewhere else lol. Also, the players from the navy are from all time zones, so the ones from the timezone that matches the siege window can join, but you decided not to answer at all. This is not good at all. You are not doing your job and giving shitty excuses that make no sense at all.
In the end, i just want to let you know that you are worthless, and what you did is that you threatened to destroy my base over some tiny incomplete paperwork which could have been completed so easy, but you dont want that to happen, You want a problem to happen, I dont know why such hate exists through a game like discovery, but this is sick and you really need to reconsider your actions.
The players that have been available to log to defend your base have been. Again, not our fault you picked a terrible siege window. We're under no obligation to make posts about defending your base when we have people actively defending it.
If you were actually an active part of Bret Gov you'd know that the Staff decides how house Govs function, not the factions that are a part of them. We don't determine who actually participates in Lib Gov, that's a staff issue. If you have a problem with it go complain at them.
This is a thread for feedback on the [LN] Liberty Navy faction, not the Government or the Staff. If you have issues with them, go post there. Your complaints have been addressed, if you don't like the answers you got, that's on you, not on us.
I can see that you are going in circles to evade your duty.
The Navy threatened to destroy my base and threatened to do so in 24 hours if I didn't resend the application for the license.
Then you ignored the call for backup. You didn't say whether you are coming or not coming, just ignored it.
Please use common sense and stop going in circles.
Anyway, I know that this is useless, since I am very sure that the motivation behind all this crap is not RP or gaming
Maybe it was my fault to post here since it's useless, but I am glad the entire community can see you clearly now.
So what, we're supposed to post saying we're going to send people that aren't available to log? If we did that you'd just be in here complaining that we promised to defend your base, but then didn't have anyone log to do it. You brought this upon yourself by picking an absolutely awful siege window for everyone involved, please stop acting like it is somehow a single faction's responsibility to defend your base when almost everyone that plays the game is asleep.
Yes you suppose to post an announcement to your members and say that we have a duty to fulfill, and if they dont have time, then they wont come and i will not come complain here about it at all, because i am not complaining about that no one came, because actually people came, but i am complaining because you ignored the comms and didnt call your members, regardless of them able to come or not, its their schedule and time to manage, not yours.... but you as an official navy faction MUST respond and direct a call of aid to all your members then see who can come and who cant
As I mentioned earlier, don't go in circles thinking that you are smartly escaping your obligations.
I am not here to repeat myself or argue with your nonsense. I know very good what's behind all this crap, and it's not the first time.
(09-10-2025, 09:27 PM)Xenon Wrote:
I am not struggling to understand how things are going. I am a member of the Bretonia government, and things are not done in the way of a Liberty government at all. There is no such weak excuse for not doing your duty as a government member.
This is your problem, and not mine, so if you have issues with people being absent, then designate and delegate or reform the structure by using the active members and not ignore it.
If you can't take feedback, then don't make a feedback thread, and bumping an ignored transmission calling for backup in times of siege is normal, since you are not doing your job.
As the navy, you are obliged to respond, even saying that you cannot come, but you choose to ignore it totally.
The message was sent to the Navy after I settled down what the Navy sent me from a threatening and siege declaration... Are you with us on the same server? Or playing somewhere else lol. Also, the players from the navy are from all time zones, so the ones from the timezone that matches the siege window can join, but you decided not to answer at all. This is not good at all. You are not doing your job and giving shitty excuses that make no sense at all.
In the end, i just want to let you know that you are worthless, and what you did is that you threatened to destroy my base over some tiny incomplete paperwork which could have been completed so easy, but you dont want that to happen, You want a problem to happen, I dont know why such hate exists through a game like discovery, but this is sick and you really need to reconsider your actions.
The players that have been available to log to defend your base have been. Again, not our fault you picked a terrible siege window. We're under no obligation to make posts about defending your base when we have people actively defending it.
If you were actually an active part of Bret Gov you'd know that the Staff decides how house Govs function, not the factions that are a part of them. We don't determine who actually participates in Lib Gov, that's a staff issue. If you have a problem with it go complain at them.
This is a thread for feedback on the [LN] Liberty Navy faction, not the Government or the Staff. If you have issues with them, go post there. Your complaints have been addressed, if you don't like the answers you got, that's on you, not on us.
I can see that you are going in circles to evade your duty.
The Navy threatened to destroy my base and threatened to do so in 24 hours if I didn't resend the application for the license.
Then you ignored the call for backup. You didn't say whether you are coming or not coming, just ignored it.
Please use common sense and stop going in circles.
Anyway, I know that this is useless, since I am very sure that the motivation behind all this crap is not RP or gaming
Maybe it was my fault to post here since it's useless, but I am glad the entire community can see you clearly now.
So what, we're supposed to post saying we're going to send people that aren't available to log? If we did that you'd just be in here complaining that we promised to defend your base, but then didn't have anyone log to do it. You brought this upon yourself by picking an absolutely awful siege window for everyone involved, please stop acting like it is somehow a single faction's responsibility to defend your base when almost everyone that plays the game is asleep.
Yes you suppose to post an announcement to your members and say that we have a duty to fulfill, and if they dont have time, then they wont come and i will not come complain here about it at all, because i am not complaining about that no one came, because actually people came, but i am complaining because you ignored the comms and didnt call your members, regardless of them able to come or not, its their schedule and time to manage, not yours.... but you as an official navy faction MUST respond and direct a call of aid to all your members then see who can come and who cant
As I mentioned earlier, don't go in circles thinking that you are smartly escaping your obligations.
I am not here to repeat myself or argue with your nonsense. I know very good what's behind all this crap, and it's not the first time.
We don't use the forums to get the attention of our members, because having Discord is a requirement. Any relevant information was shared with members in channels that are not open to the public to view. Do not assume that everyone manages their factions the same way you manage your own.
Since this is now well past the scope of actual feedback, we ask you to either continue these discussions via Discord PMs or to simply stop posting here.
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