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Notice of ID CHANGE - CORE ID
Offline EisenSeele
09-15-2025, 11:18 PM,
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The CORE ID:
Code:
The Core is a private military company operating mainly within the Edge Worlds. They relentlessly search for Alien Artifacts and technology that can be exploited and sold to wealthy and powerful benefactors in the Houses.
This Independent Corporate ID is used by Core pilots, who:
- Can attack any ship to protect allies.
- Can attack Alien, Order, and Technocracy ships, and ships carrying Alien, Order, or Technocracy materials.
- Cannot use any ship with more than 4,300 cargo.
Within Zone of Influence (Omicrons and bordering systems, Omegas):
- Can attack ships considered hostile by The Core.
- Can enforce Core laws within the Omicrons.
Mining Bonuses: Azurite Gas (3x), Iridium Ore (3x), Xeno Relics (3x)

Has been changed to:

Code:
The Core is a private military company operating mainly within the Edge Worlds. They relentlessly search for Alien Artifacts and technology that can be exploited and sold to wealthy and powerful benefactors in the Houses.
This Independent Corporate ID is used by Core pilots, who:
- Can attack Alien, Order, and Technocracy ships, and ships carrying Alien, Order, or Technocracy materials.
- Cannot use any ship with more than 4,300 cargo.
Within Zone of Influence (Omicrons and bordering systems, Omegas):
- Can attack ships considered hostile by The Core.
- Can enforce Core laws within the Omicrons.
Outside Zone of Influence:
- Must only attack in self-defense while using Cruisers, Battlecruisers, or Battleships.
Mining Bonuses: Azurite Gas (3x), Iridium Ore (3x), Xeno Relics (3x)

The intent of the ID revision is to restrict the use of Core Cruisers, Battlecruisers, and Battleships to within ZOI for all engagement lines. All ID's are still capable of supporting allies per common server rules
Code:
2.3- All IDs can:
    Attack Alien IDs, except while flying Cruisers, Battlecruiser, or Battleships.
    Attack any ship to defend Allies, except while flying Cruisers, Battlecruisers, or Battleships.

    Within their ZOI:
    Attack any ship to defend Allies.

    Within Uncharted Systems:
    Act as if the system were in their Zone of Influence.
    Demand Cerulite Crystals, Chirodebris, Cryo-Organisms, and Organic Capacitors from non-Allies.

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Offline Lythrilux
09-16-2025, 01:15 AM,
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I understand the intention is to prevent it from hopping into random engagements across Sirius, which is fine, but surely the "- Can attack Alien, Order, and Technocracy ships, and ships carrying Alien, Order, or Technocracy materials." line could still be usable in capital ships Sirius-wide? That has always been a standard, albeit situationally exceptional, line in the ID prior (though I suppose in terms of ID standardisation, it would probably be limited to Cruisers max?).

The ID also needs an icon update.

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Offline Nika
09-16-2025, 03:52 AM,
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Well that was fast.
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Offline A Magpie
09-16-2025, 04:35 AM,
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RIP Ultra and the Sirius-Wide Bickering AI Warship Comedy Club.
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Offline Promotheus
09-16-2025, 05:02 AM,
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I don't think the caps out of zoi limitation in this change, on an indie ID, is a big deal. Order and Nomads have similar limitations.
That said, I assume an OF ID could deviate from the cap limitation line? Given that Houses occasionally want to hire Core to help out.

Maybe they could get a 'can use caps outside zoi while fulfilling house contracts' type bounty line or something that allows them to use their caps? Bit of a unique twist on the default bounty line to show Cores unique niche. Unless this change is specifically aimed at keeping the Core the Omicrons/Omegas I suppose?
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Offline Eternal.Journey
09-16-2025, 10:06 AM,
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One man on a mission to single-handedly fix every "caps outside of ZoI" ID in Discovery.

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Offline NBK
09-16-2025, 10:43 AM,
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Offline Lord Caedus
09-16-2025, 12:57 PM,
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(09-16-2025, 05:02 AM)Promotheus Wrote: I don't think the caps out of zoi limitation in this change, on an indie ID, is a big deal. Order and Nomads have similar limitations.
That said, I assume an OF ID could deviate from the cap limitation line? Given that Houses occasionally want to hire Core to help out.

Maybe they could get a 'can use caps outside zoi while fulfilling house contracts' type bounty line or something that allows them to use their caps? Bit of a unique twist on the default bounty line to show Cores unique niche. Unless this change is specifically aimed at keeping the Core the Omicrons/Omegas I suppose?

You seem to be operating under the assumption that the Core is a part of the BHG. They are not, and would never be hired by any of the Houses to act as a military force in their space. The main point of the Core is for them to extract resources and bring them back to the Houses, while still allowing the Houses themselves to retain deniability of their actions.

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Offline A Magpie
09-16-2025, 03:03 PM,
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Core is meant to be scary. A PMC supported by every Great House even as they glare daggers at each other. Top of the line warships built first at Juneau and sent out to enforce in the Omicrons.

And if the Great Houses want to launder some money to their investment, the deployment of a Core Warship to collect some bounties would be the perfect way to go about it. A Core Battleship is scary. It’s optimized to challenge the Thebes (most powerful warship in Sirius), alien warforms that kill worlds, and the Corsairs right next to the seat of their power. And APM just burned some political capital because they needed real capital, so that’s bearing down on you because your cruiser-sized hunk of junk has a bounty on it.

Makos not being considered for regional balance is part of the fun. It’s something different popping up out of nowhere.
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Offline Lythrilux
09-16-2025, 04:05 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-16-2025, 04:07 PM by Lythrilux.)
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The Core ID should not be taking bounties. That is BHG's job.

I personally think The Core should have a business in producing Thresher cruisers for the BHG ID to fly. Give the BHG ID Threshers.

Back on topic, I think The Core should be using all tools at their disposal to pursue alien materials and ships everywhere. It's their purpose. I don't think the pursuit of Order and Auxesia vessels is as relevant as that to their ID but I suppose it's there to match those IDs (also lmao why can the Order ID enforce laws).

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