Ok HUGE question

[Silverfox2112]

Ok guys hopefully I'm posting in the right area, if not let me know and I'll move it somewhere else.
A few friends of mine have been pondering around an idea on a new faction and have already put in a few chars to kinda "test the waters" as it were. Now unfortunatly, work and rl has taken precedence and I'm left try to work out the details basically alone (Wife is off in BMT, I got time. They play but not as often as used to). So I was thinking about pitching this idea to you guys, seeing as though we would be inhabiting the same area as you and if the idea conflicts in anyway, you'll let me know and we can either adapt or abandon. (Sorry no long story and all that atm, I'll save that if we do post in faction requests)


The general idea was for the group to be either a subdivision of Orbital Spa and Cruise or vice-versa, let Orbital Spa and Cruise be an extension Arcadian Incorperated. Based in both Cortez and Stuttgart, we were hoping to employ the orbital spa and cruise liner (and perhaps the container transport) for trading ventures between Rhineland, Bretonia and Liberty. We are aware of the trade embargo between rhineland and liberty and in this comes are first problem. Game mechanically it shouldn't be a problem to move goods between Bretonia and Rhineland and not pull anything from Rhineland to Liberty or vice-versa but rp wise it does grate slightly.

The concenus of the group is to have a trading company, under orbital spa and cruise (this group puts us in the middle of the rp, between the house systems, specifically the corridor between cambridge and berlin) Everyone in the group is quite happy running goods back and forth, day after day for money but...its not very rewarding, so the other idea with having a trading company or another kind of coperation behind orbital spa and cruise is allowing us to "Protect" Our and other friendly merchants during this famous trip. The omega systems are not usually patrolled by either rhineland or Bretonia so we felt that this would be a chance to have alot of fun playing with the outcast and corsair pirates. (And as everyone has felt at one time or another, paying 2mil or more for passage gets old;)

Online with the same idea, we were curious if it would be acceptable to have our own police force, fighters and bombers mostly (and whatever we could by from the houses) which has led to a myraid of almost but not quite possiblities of ship availability. We could convince Rhineland to give us some Wraths, but are friendly nature with liberty would count that out probley, mabey Liberty would let us buy some..but what happens when we escort a liner into Rhineland? This is a huge problem that I don't see a quick way around besides taking hold of mabey bretonian (unless we go towards Kusari) Or Zoner (don't see a reason for a problem with zoners) or civilian craft.

Of course are hostile list of factions will include anyone faction that engages in Piracy (they would be cutting into profits) and friendly would most likly be Liberty and/or Rhineland with an Alliance with Bretonia (seeing as we are constantly running through their territory, makes sense) and hostile with Kusari because of the conflict.

This idea is all comming together...but VERY slowly. Any input or idea's you guys could contribut would be a great help. (even if its go away and die....we'll take it in to thought;)

Thanks
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[kevin]

Well, i wouldnt mind an Orbital Spa and Cruise faction, however i believe it would lose thrust within a few weeks and die off, alot of trader factions dont last long.

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[Dieter Schprokets]

Trading factions often have a "Defense" arm. Repex did it.

You are thinking this through thoroughly. I like the general idea.

I'll leave picking on the details to others.:)

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[Silverfox2112]

To true, trader factions usually do fall off. (already lost one hopefull member because of that) but a few of us have no life, one marine locked down in japan, one guy stuck in school with a military wife (raises hand) an self employed child care expert (that last part my be stretching it:P) And a lost high school graduate, that is "pondering the meaning of life" to round off the top few.. We got time to waste on boring trading ventures;)

[Koolmo]

Yes, I agree. This goes look like a good faction Idea, and seeing a trading corporation that's not purely about profit is always refreshing.

For your diplomacy, I would reccoment that you be friendly to bretonia and rheinland, and neutral to Liberty, due to the trade embargo. You could choose to emloy your own escorts, or you could attempt to contract mercinaries, although that may prove difficult at the moment. Consider contracting one of the Merc. Corporations, and possibly hammer something out. You would also need to open RP communication with the house militaries and police forces, to ensure who you are and what you're doing.

SCRA would, in yor case, be neutral, due to the fact that we do not engage in piracy, and the fact that you're carrying cargo, of a sort, makes you traders, and therefor a legitimate non-combattent in our war against the Alliance.

Good luck mate, I like where this is goin.

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[BaconSoda]

I like this idea, but, rather than basing yourself on the Orbital Spa and Cruise Planets, why not attempt to cater to the Cruise Liners instead? That sounds like a little more fun, especially with bringing life to the ever-desolate Sigma-19 and Edinburgh. Spa and Cruise is a pretty niche faction, so limiting yourself even more might not be fun.

Well, i wouldnt mind an Orbital Spa and Cruise faction, however i believe it would lose thrust within a few weeks and die off, alot of trader factions dont last long.

Sadly, trader factions do tend to lose their luster fast. It's mainly because trading isn't fun. Ever. In my time here, we've had RepEx, then Gateway, which is still alive and kicking, the IMG, and the GMG. It's a shame that they're so shortlived, because there is so much room for RP in corporation traders.....

Trading factions often have a "Defense" arm. Repex did it.

You are thinking this through thoroughly. I like the general idea.

I'll leave picking on the details to others.:)

As far as I know, the Spa and Cruise Security Wing is rather small, since they don't really care what happens one trade lane down where the tourists are no longer their problem. It's your choice on whether to include it or not, but leaving it out is an option....

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[Silverfox2112]

Wonderful Idea, and its most defiantly possible. I'll do some more research on the possiblitly of running just to the liners but we still need that id and tag. I suppose it could be worked around though. And again the trader only thing? Like before we already ran into this problem and lost a member because of it being to "boring" to keep going. So the defense arm would be an essential element. It allows both gunhoe players and mild greeders to fit into the show. But please, Please keep it comming. Every little bit counts and is taken into consideration.

[CusoJR]

Try out the Viper MK2. It's a decent SHF that throws quite a punch with the right loadout. More than one of those and pirates will think twice before pirating the ship you are protecting.

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[Silverfox2112]

Try out the Viper MK2. It's a decent SHF that throws quite a punch with the right loadout. More than one of those and pirates will think twice before pirating the ship you are protecting.

Aye, Just gave the Viper MK2 a try and your right. Easy accesablitliy too being in Omega 7. I'll send the message across the board to the other members and let them know to look into it. Thanks CusoJR, we owe you;).

[Taffic]

I'd suggest you'd read this post by Xoria on the subject. He's certainly done his homework & as he's working on the game economics at the moment it might be well worth giving him a PM to discuss some of his proposed changes.

Good luck with your goals.

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