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Nika · 04-02-2024, 09:53 AM,

No game rule prohibits piracy in a capital ship and, after bringing this complaint of yours - it is one, regardless of your attempts to hold the moral high ground while twisting the facts and providing edited DSAce logs with zero other evidence to support your claims of rule infringement.

You are more than welcome to get off your high horse, and come back with a plausible case and actually constructive attitude instead of what you are demonstrating here and now, discrediting what little decency BMF has left whatsoever. Until then.

TaiyoSen · 04-02-2024, 04:48 PM,

(04-02-2024, 09:53 AM)Yazov Wrote: No game rule prohibits piracy in a capital ship and, after bringing this complaint of yours - it is one, regardless of your attempts to hold the moral high ground while twisting the facts and providing edited DSAce logs with zero other evidence to support your claims of rule infringement.

You are more than welcome to get off your high horse, and come back with a plausible case and actually constructive attitude instead of what you are demonstrating here and now, discrediting what little decency BMF has left whatsoever. Until then.

Can't we just rp, this has been handled

thisDerius · 04-02-2025, 07:12 PM,

Just a bump about this: https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...n=lastpost

I am an impatient person (I am sorry) and I wish to go bounty hunting.

MFN Neuss/Helmut Schmid · (This post was last modified: 01-31-2026, 03:27 PM by MFN Neuss/Helmut Schmid.)

Pirating is okay, dont get me wrong
but
if your people are asking for too many cedits
the fun is over
5m for a barge full of Niobium(you need to pay 3m to get it full and after selling it you have a profit of 1.2m)
so yeah
it was not reasonable imo
cuz there is not much profit on the route
2m would be okay
but 5m is too much....
but i also need to apologize cuz i was away from the computer for 2 mins cuz Rl issue and hasnt respond first)

conversation

and it seems like he was mixing oorp msgs and rp msgs together...)
it if will continue like that
i see no reason to do rp with your faction ingame or better to say: i will avoid your ships at all....
Have a good day....

btw
near the NT JH i encountered a dragon
he asked for 20k credits.......

**StellarViss** · Yesterday, 02:09 AM,

Hello there MFN Neuss/Helmut Schmid I will now respond to your feedback. Starting off with the first issue you brought back being piracy. IMG has lines enabling it to treat any competitors as ships as hostile targets essentially enabling us to /1 /2 a Daumann Barge in Tau-23
Below are pictures demonstrating it.

It is not my wish to sound condescending but as you can see IMG|GPV-Heavy.Duck was providing you with an out instead of blowing your ship up and calling for others to come and scoop up the ore. The fact is that you were unresponsive until a threat of violence appeared gave sufficient reasons for him to increase the demand. I am glad that you understand that being AFK is problematic but I digress. You have brought a Barge that is a very slow ship into a home system of your competitor with no escorts and informed him that you bought the Niobium from another competitor POB that being BiaCris a IDF pob supplied by GMS miners.

Additionally Independent Miners' Guild Stellar Regulations state that any other vessels and mining operations will be driven away, and their illegally-mined materials confiscated. Saying that it originates from such a Installation makes your ship a violator of said regulations.

Independent Miners' Guild Stellar Regulations Wrote:B. Illegal Actions & Contraband

2. Mining Permissions:
Only Guildmembers are permitted to mine in the deposits in Taus and the Omegas. Any other vessels and mining operations will be driven away, and their illegally-mined materials confiscated.

Now to respond to the allegations of IMG faction member mixing oorp msgs and rp msgs together. I do not see it. Looking at your DSAce logs I guess that it could be two things. Most likely that it was these lines

Quote:31.01.2026 14:56:03] IMG|GPV-Heavy.Duck: RO: 5 million credits.
[31.01.2026 14:56:17] IMG|GPV-Heavy.Duck: RO: I don't like to repeat myself Daumann.
[31.01.2026 14:56:40] [OOC] MFN|Super-Supplier: you know that too much for a demand....anyway
[31.01.2026 14:56:49] IMG|GPV-Heavy.Duck: RO: I guess I take this as a no?
[31.01.2026 14:56:55] /gct 5000000
[31.01.2026 14:56:55] [2026-01-31] 13:56:55 You have sent 5.000.000 credits to IMG|GPV-Heavy.Duck.
[31.01.2026 14:57:17] IMG|GPV-Heavy.Duck: RO: Wasn't to hard, right?
[31.01.2026 14:57:18] [OOC] MFN|Super-Supplier: and dont mix orp msgs with rp msgs my friend

The Heavy Duck was referring to your keeping quiet. Silence as absence of an answer usually gets interpreted as a no.

Or were you confused by the RO: prefix used by the IMG ship.

To finish this off I do not appreciate your continued pm-ing of IMG’s faction member. PM stands for private message unlike regular local /system messages a player has their right to tell you not to pm him especially if you were to use that tone. If you wished to discuss Heavy Ducks actions you can always post here on the feedback thread or use the Discord. IMG has its own and also has a thread on the Official faction showcase finally My own DMs are open for such complaints. I might not respond immediately as my employment demands my full attention for 5 day a week with my off days being Monday and Thursday (I weep for a Weekend as my off days).

Now I do hope this clears things up. If you wish to talk more about this situation, feel free to use the above-described methods.

MFN Neuss/Helmut Schmid · (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 09:32 AM by MFN Neuss/Helmut Schmid.)

All gucci
but i dont care what he can do ingame
Rules are clear
and thats it
the 5m is the issue if you dont get it mate
he asked for my whole profit if i had decided to trade with it.
thats not reasonable.
but good to know that you thinking its fine to ask for 5m(old value it would be 500m btw)
so yeah
IMG wants to be a nice OF?
hahaha
good joke
pirating for profit......
and btw
it wasnt a mining operation......

2.5 - Terms used in IDs:
"Allies" - Ships of the same non-Generic affiliation or ID; Ships defined as your ID's allies on the in-game faction rep sheet; friendly or neutral Ships you are currently flying in group with. For corporate ships, non-hostile lawful ships count as allies.
"Hostiles" - Ships defined as enemies on the in-game faction rep sheet; Ships rephacked red by your ID; Ships affected by an Official Faction's use of Faction Right 5.
"Trade Ship" - Transports, Liners, and Frigates.
"Combat Ship" - Ships other than Trade Ships, or Trade Ships used offensively.
"Contract" - An agreement for a service, such as combat or escort, in exchange for some form of payment.
"Alien Materials" - Artifacts, Low-Grade Artifacts, Xeno Relics, Nomad Power Cells, Nomad Remains, Azurite Gas, Cerulite Crystals, Chirodebris, Cryo-Organisms, and Organic Capacitors.
"Piracy" - a reasonable demand issued to a ship which can be attacked if it fails to comply. Piracy can include requests for credits and cargo or a roleplay requirement, such as following a instruction or answering a question.

MFN Neuss/Helmut Schmid · Yesterday, 09:38 AM,

Quote:To finish this off I do not appreciate your continued pm-ing of IMG’s faction member.

i have only contacted him after the encounter to exlain that his demand wasnt reasonable and no one else, yeah?
and as answer you get: you get blocked???
Blocked from an OF Member???
Shows only the behavior of that OF
no more words needed
ngl

**Karst** · Yesterday, 01:17 PM,

(Yesterday, 09:28 AM)MFN Neuss/Helmut Schmid Wrote: "Piracy" - a reasonable demand issued to a ship which can be attacked if it fails to comply. Piracy can include requests for credits and cargo or a roleplay requirement, such as following a instruction or answering a question.

The "reasonable demand" clause only applies in situations in which a demand is actually required.

In situations in which a player can simply engage you, any demand they may issue is purely a courtesy, and they can ask for whatever they want.

Geno · Yesterday, 01:43 PM,

human... i remember you're piracy demands

Nicolás Diego · (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 04:37 PM by Nicolás Diego.)

(Yesterday, 01:17 PM)Karst Wrote:
(Yesterday, 09:28 AM)MFN Neuss/Helmut Schmid Wrote: "Piracy" - a reasonable demand issued to a ship which can be attacked if it fails to comply. Piracy can include requests for credits and cargo or a roleplay requirement, such as following a instruction or answering a question.

The "reasonable demand" clause only applies in situations in which a demand is actually required.

In situations in which a player can simply engage you, any demand they may issue is purely a courtesy, and they can ask for whatever they want.

What a bullshit.
Cuz that would means he can ask for 100m credits.
And thats pure blasphemy....
But good to know how you handle stuff like that.
Cuz it's not explained in the rules that a demand is required
Lol
Anyway
Time to avoid IMG ingame, same for the forum.

Ps: I'm at work atm and dont have access to the MFN forum Account

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