CAN WE GET AN ADMIN IN OMICRON GAMMA

[Exile]

It's simple. 95% of the BHG these days lulz, rofl, and lmfao. They log on in their big ships to kill something without a word. And when they get killed, the killer is a cheater and a haxer and will be reported.

So to speak.


How to deal with them? Ignore them. If you don't give'm the pvp they want, they will shrink and disolve. If their at Crete for example, just dock and swap characters. Crete isn't going to die.

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[Baltar]

There's an old term ... called "dock raping" ... where they destroy you as you undock. You in effect are imprisoned on the planet or base.

[Exile]

Yes, thats where the "swap characters" part comes in.

Assuming you have characters not docked on Crete, that is.

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[Primus Avatar]

i don't see why you guys are so against admin help. Calling it "intervention" sounds improper. I would call it observation. You know...like angels, not the devils you present them to be.

anyway. I'm in favor of this thread.

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wassup

[Jinx]

"Yeah ... they'll enjoy these screens ... 4 Bounty Hunters in Battle Cruisers parked in front of Crete's docking ring farming Corsairs ... and killing every Corsair human player that exits the ring. Yeah ... loads of fun to watch.

I'm tellin ya ... these indie Bounty Hunters are seriously ruining the BH reputation on the server. They have a habit of camping in unlawful areas ... and Crete of all places?

EDIT: Don't see admins in-game much. Thought I'd give this a try to see how quickly they could respond. Didn't work ... but thanks for that. "

i d love to know.....

how are the BHG capital ships supposed to get to delta, where they are supposed to be?
they must not pass alaska, they must not pass kusari space, they must not pass nomad space on their way.... that LEAVES ONLY GAMMA... - that does not include BHGs that actually attack and camp gamma.... - but really, how are the capital ships of the BHG supposed to get to delta? - that is a serious question.

i think we agree that the BHG caps are meant to be in the omicrons. - but every inRP route is blocked by factions. - and there is no alternative left. the caps are produced in dresden / guard system. -

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[Elvin]

Yeah ... they'll enjoy these screens ... 4 Bounty Hunters in Battle Cruisers parked in front of Crete's docking ring farming Corsairs ... and killing every Corsair human player that exits the ring. Yeah ... loads of fun to watch.

I'm tellin ya ... these indie Bounty Hunters are seriously ruining the BH reputation on the server. They have a habit of camping in unlawful areas ... and Crete of all places?

EDIT: Don't see admins in-game much. Thought I'd give this a try to see how quickly they could respond. Didn't work ... but thanks for that.

Oh well I agree with the fact its simply stupid "BH-BC no. 1 : Hey guyz no offic Corsairz factiobnz onlune letz camps creta BH-BC no. 2-4: YEAH!"... Its sad but not aginst rules...

What can we do... It happens, its sucks...

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[Zelot]

i d love to know.....

how are the BHG capital ships supposed to get to delta, where they are supposed to be?
they must not pass alaska, they must not pass kusari space, they must not pass nomad space on their way.... that LEAVES ONLY GAMMA... - that does not include BHGs that actually attack and camp gamma.... - but really, how are the capital ships of the BHG supposed to get to delta? - that is a serious question.

i think we agree that the BHG caps are meant to be in the omicrons. - but every inRP route is blocked by factions. - and there is no alternative left. the caps are produced in dresden / guard system. -

Jinx, no one is saying that BH's cant go through Gamma, what I am saying is that Delta is a remote place, and it should be a dangerous, risky journey to get there, not a little stroll down the street. BH's should be going through Gamma to get to Delta, and you know what Corsairs SHOULD be trying to stop them. There shouldn't not be a route for Bounty Hunters to get to Delta, that is "goes this way, it's the safest way to get to Delta" that defeats the purpose of having Delta being a far off remote place.

And your Comment has nothing to do with what people are talking about here, except to illustrate why it is no house faction wants the BH's using their territory to get to Delta, because things like this happen.

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[tfmachad]

How about doing to the Bounty Hunters the same that was done to the Mercenaries in 4.84. Take away their capital ships. It's not like these ships are being employed to the end they were commissioned to anyway. The vast majority of the Bounty Hunter capital ships (cruiser up) are being used to gank pirates in core systems. I reckon this would grant back the BHG their due status in House territory.

EDIT: At least it worked for the Mercenaries. The class is more respected and serious nowadays.

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[Kuraine]

Don't see any admins ingame much? I'm online with my admin character for at least 30-60 minutes every day. I apologise if i'm not around at 3am to boot out rowdy bounty hunters from Crete that apparently the Corsairs don't have the forces to kick out:PI do actually have to sleep, strange though that might seem. The other admins are the same, and we all have RL jobs, girlfriends/wives/kids, working on 4.85 etc.

So in any case, screaming for admin intervention isn't really the right thing to do. If they're breaking rules, then screenshot it and we'll deal with it. If they're not, just gather together a large force of corsair bombers and kill them, or just ignore them until they get bored and go away. The BHG *do* know the location of Gamma and they can go there.

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[Jinx]

@gronath: a simple "no"

BHG was perfect before the mercs were nerft down. - after that, every scum went to join the BHG faction and the reputation is now ruined for a long long time. - one must be ashamed to be BHG, even if you try hard to RP.

when you nerf the BHG to smaller ships - you have two problems...

- a whole line of ships is gone
- the same that went from mercs to BHG will join the next best faction ( zoners / junkers )

and i do NOT accept another faction to be ruined like that. - form a personal point of view, i don t mind them all join junkers as much as i care about zoners of course.... but what then. - nerf junkers / zoners to small ships? - keep doing so each update? - no, there must be other solutions.

about BHG going through gamma to reach delta. - no, i don t think so.

when its about the game lore and the logic. - reinforcements would go the safest way possible.
- liberty, kusari, tohoku, delta

but the playerfactions blocked that logical route - its unlikely that the guild sends their reinforcements through a pirates home system - how silly would that be.
right now - its their only choice though, due to BHG bans - which imo - are ... while mildly justified.. not beneficial. - a BHG that wants to play a core member must go through gamma right now - and then the corsairs complain about the train of BHG capital ships passing through their system, when the BHG should rather use different routes. - BHG caps exist, they have much more RP base than most other capital ships ( dragons, corsairs, outcasts ) - they have a disco lore about being at war ( the only other lore about such a great conflict in the entire of disco is kusari / bretonia )

it is not about defending the BHG, but its about realizing that we leave the BHG not much of a choice anymore. - they must not do what they are bound to do ( they ARE bound to be substitute police at jumpholes and gates in the lawful systems, a task that we deny them ) - we want their caps to be in the omicrons, but get annoyed when they appear anywhere but there - and even there, people get annoyed about them. - we must decide what we want - in a bigger picture, not just the very local politics. - i can understand that liberty says "ban them" ... i can understand that kusari says "ban them" ... i can understand that the corsairs are dead annoyed. - but yet, i see no alternative for one of the major warfaring facitons with a lot more RP reasons to have capital ships than pretty much any other faciton.

if someone comes up with an alternative ( except - nerf the ID, which is no option of previously explained reasons ) - i d love to listen.

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