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[Kambei]

Im not denying that skill is a great part of it (depending on the situation, enginekill in a cap can mean death for a bomber if you fly right, and the bomber is slow to realize what yourdoing) and that weps loadout is part of it (make great use of propper weps groups) but the fact is that its EASY for a bomber to hit a cruiser or up, while its VERY hard for a cap to hit a well flown bomber (falcattastrafes amazingly, for example, and when used in a intelligent way, caps die like flies)

However, whats the point of caps in the first place if all you need a pair or 3 of bombers for each cap. Just spam bombers and dont bother with caps at all. Caps should have defence against fighters/bombers at closer ranges, forcing them to stay farther out.

again no... much bigger ships in our history were owned by single plane with poor torpedo (VHF with sunslayer?). It is hard to hit bomber but that is esencial why to use bomber and not another cap. With proper weapons it is much easier to kill bomber, with skill little bit more. Good cruiser captain NOW IN 4.84 cant and I repaet it again CANT be owned by single bomber, maybe 3 would be enough...

If you was killed by single bomber (and it wasnt legend like kanadzuchi) than sadly I must say it was your fault and you arent good enough for cap.

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[Bad.Wolf]

What! SNAC is great, it toke me and 4 other bombers to take down a BS which is realistic, and it really only takes 1 bomber to take down a enemy Crusier-Battleship(only need to hit the ammo magazine to cause a chain reaction within the Battleship or Crusier classes. or hit it dead straight in the middle of the ship.)

[Elvin]

What! SNAC is great, it toke me and 4 other bombers to take down a BS which is realistic, and it really only takes 1 bomber to take down a enemy Crusier-Battleship(only need to hit the ammo magazine to cause a chain reaction within the Battleship or Crusier classes. or hit it dead straight in the middle of the ship.)

Right, lets make a program which causes that when Bomber goes closer than 5K to capship it will explode (Joke)

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[Guest]

This is allmost like complaining that a pen writes with ink, instead of graphyte.

Yes, bombers WILL eat you alive when you are in a cap.

Capital ships ARE supposed to fear them, or else bombers have no use.

Just like a bomber can be taken out with ease by a well flown LF.

There is enough nerfing going on allready...leave the sn be.

[13CentKiller]

There should be bigger gap between VHF and bomber... Bombers currently can take out both caps and fighters without bigger problems... Bombers should be weaker aginst fighters and stronger aginst caps...Altough SN currently have enough povers... Thatsy why just the agility should be nerfed.

Agility is fine.

I can guarantee that if the maneuverability as nerfed to death, a decent bomber could still take down a fighter.

A decent gunboat could still get taken out by a better bomber. Its still a matter or skill. Remember the days when we all had duel novas? Those where the days:)

Bombers have been nerfed several times, and people still complain. The fact is, with each nerf, the pilot gets smarter faster and better at doing what he does. And if you nerf his ship enough, he will learn your technique you where doing with a gunboat and become a capital ship of equal or greater strength and take you down twice as hard as he would have with a bomber! :laugh:

Its a vicious circle. It goes on and on my friend. And the hundreds of posts about the same ships have come up time and time again, ending in the exact same way.

Just increases my post count:cool:

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"Three o'clock is always too late or too early for anything you want to do."

[Wes_Janson]

This is allmost like complaining that a pen writes with ink, instead of graphyte.

Yes, bombers WILL eat you alive when you are in a cap.

Capital ships ARE supposed to fear them, or else bombers have no use.

Just like a bomber can be taken out with ease by a well flown LF.

There is enough nerfing going on allready...leave the sn be.

Caps should fear MULTIPLE bombers, just a pair, or even a single one.

I mean Ive seen battleships took down by a mere two bombers, thats just a joke.

[Kambei]

Caps should fear MULTIPLE bombers, just a pair, or even a single one.

I mean Ive seen battleships took down by a mere two bombers, thats just a joke.

I bet with you idea of single bomber behind ship shields (closer to ship than is reaction time of planes on board) is worst nightmare of every single captain of carrier from WWII until present days.

And we know from history .... single light fighter can destroy battleship, what can do a bomber? baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang is answer.

Cap dont make an pwner from you... only you can do. In 4.84 single bomber cant kill battleship and cant kill cruiser if captain isnt total NOOB - NOOOOOB NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB
(or bomber pilot isnt bomber legend... how much of them is on server ehm 3?)

thank you for atention:)

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[Guest]

Dont be fooled into thinking that youre invulnerable. Just because you are bigger doesnt mean youre meaner, tougher, and have anymore rights than anyone else on Discovery. Bombers WILL tear you up with relative ease, other capships will get you, and asteroids are going to become the bane of your existence.

Nough said.

Cannot fly a BS? Fly a BS around all alone without fighter or gunboat support? Youre own fault to die to bombers, no need to nerf anything.

As it stands, caps are pretty damn useless

Yes...exactly! [color=#FF0000]Capital ships are Worthless. A big ship, only to faff about. Remember Freelancer is a Fighter simulator, capships are like the eastereggs.

[Dennis Jameson]

Capital ships are harder to fly than fighters, but they're FAR from useless.

As much as i loathe to say it, just L2P. Heh.

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[SevereTrinity]

One well flown cruiser or GB can beat a well flown bomber.

Please stop making threads when you lose, it only gets annoying.

I was fighting Zach's cruiser after my ally fell, and I got a few SN hits on hul,, but ultimately he won.

The next hour I was in Liberty and took down a cruiser and 2 GBs.

The difference? Zach dodged (Yes, you can dodge in caps, and pretty well, if you know how), the GB/Cruiser pilots sat still and tried to kill me in turret mode, so I just kept my distance, and laid into them.

Also, caps shouldn't be able to take out smaller ships solo.... They should have escorts, because you decide to fly solo is not a reason for a nerf to bombers.

Also, 4.85 caps will be kind of the same, but with escorts, you'll usually win... balancing has been done very well, please stop moaning about the current situation when the problem has already been resolved.