Now, I don't know when or how all you Gammites decided that I speak for any Zoners other than the TAZ, but just to make it clear what my position is...
I hereby step down from the Council of Zoners. I hereby recall Mama Dis to Baffin. The Council can find another Chairperson.
I'm tired of the bombastic buffoons on both sides. Snivel at each other all you like, Jefe. I ain't buying it for the measly lint in both my pockets.
When you get around to saying something meaningful regarding anything I care about, call me in Baffin.
Lady, lets make some things clear. first, when i asked him of his target for the passengers, answer was clear: CRETE. The 10 seconds, was not total time of that trader in front of my guns. i gived him 2 times 5 second window for dropping his cargo. in other time i used two basic missile turrets to keep his shield down and slowly damaging him, to show him ,taht the more time he will wait, the more damage he take. clear? that situation was in total more as 5 minutes. is 5 minutes enough to press one big red button to drop all cargo ??? i think is. then second part. all this time was another AoF vessel in gamma system, out of range of my scanner, and he was informed about all, because i used public communication. So when first trader exploded, there was 100 percent clear that when i caught any ship with passengers, someone has problem. 10 minutes after that jump another ship under AoF tag in gamma, again full of passengers. How it ended, we all know. And now please, tell me, what was bad on my diplomacy...
Or you will for all zoner vessels that break our rules, something different as for non zoner vessels? Have you another rules for corsairs violation no fire zone as for outcasts? No. only hunters have better terms. (and dont scream, look on what elder sephardi typed about post from kristina )
and senor malaclypse, only one little thing. we all know that somewhere in theta are juggernauts. But dont forget that o41 is full of stones, and that make it ideal system for our bombers... and they can be used not only for defend freeport...
So. AoF are saying, that it was mistake from their side, things solved. we all hope this will never happend again. So where is problem now?
' Wrote:So. AoF are saying, that it was mistake from their side, things solved. we all hope this will never happend again. So where is problem now?
Globalo out
...end of message...
Comm ID: Malaclypse
I haven't a clue, Jefe. You're the one still flapping your gums. You boys keep your organisms and your artifacts and your little rock fields, and the TAZ will stay in its own yard.
Now.. if you have further blustering to do, take it up with the Council. The TAZ washes its hands.
hm, one of our ships attacked from freeport after deal was maked, and nothing happend. zoners delivering passengers to crete, and we are bad.
Funny. I think talking with council has more sense as talking with someone who say one thing and make other...
hm, one of our ships attacked from freeport after deal was maked, and nothing happend. zoners delivering passengers to crete, and we are bad.
Funny. I think talking with council has more sense as talking with someone who say one thing and make other...
globalo out...
You just don't get it, do you bubba? I have not said one single damn thing regarding the issue. Get your bloody facts straight before you cry in your cerveza, waholote'.
Once again.. talk to the hand, or the Council.
TAZ will stay out of your yard, Globalito, and you can find another shoulder to cry on.
Well since I'm mentioned here I feel I need to answer some transmissions on this channel. I have already stated my opinion about the AoF incident, so I dont feel I need to talk about it any more.
I'll start with this.
' Wrote:Comm ID: Sephardi
Elder Globalo is clearly attacked by Bounty Hunter ships staging from a Freeport as we discussed, and nothing, and in fact one of your people suggested Global was asking for it.
First of all I'm not one of Malcalypse's people, I'm not in TAZ, I am an independant Zoner. Secondly I did not suggest that captain Kristina (I believe it was captain Kristina, not Elder Globalo) was asking for it, I said that she seemed to agree with the confrontation, as the evidence that she provided suggests, if I am mistaken, she is welcome to show me where I'm wrong.
Now, onto other things.
' Wrote:To: Participants of this communication channel.
From: Juan Montoya
However, playing on your diplomatic terms here, I will remind you, Fyre, that the Corsairs patrol Omega 49 in the Zoner's place. If you shut off your bases to us, there will be consequences.
I stated that Zoners have no privilages in Gamma, well i'm afraid it goes both ways, I also said that it was plain stupid to bring a Zoner destroyer into Gamma, I'd say threatening Omega 49 isn't much wiser. To some of us Zoners a threat against Gran Canaria probably equals what a threat against Crete for a Corsair would be.
Again this is my opinion only, I do not speak for the Council or TAZ for that matter.
And a Zoner destroyer with clearly hostile intentions entering Omicron Gamma is not a threat to Crete at all, is it?
For the people here who can't see what I can see so clearly, let me spell out why I reacted so harshly earlier.
Quote:We have supplied food and supplies to Crete for a long time, and I would remind you that you make use of our facilities on a regular basis.
I've recieved many threats of this kind from the likes of the AW, now thankfully dissolved as a faction. Well worded, and not at all threatening, except in the content for which it was written or said. As such, I feel little need to stay my tongue when recieving such a threat from a non-combattant.
Needless to say, due to the past AW's claim of Zoner neutrality whilst clearly favouring Outcasts and Hunters against us, we aren't too trustworthy of the Zoners as a whole. Compounded by the fact that I remember a time when Hellfire Legion ships banded together with the AW to actively invade our home, and you should be able to understand just how suspicious I am. However, when we are repeatedly spat at, as can be seen by your clearly "I dont care" response to this perfectly valid complaint, you see we get quite hostile.
And to think, all this could have been avoided if you Zoners had done the proper thing.
Oran,only one thing.look on the computer in zoner council, and you can find there a deal,that corsairs and hunters will not use freeports as base for attacks on opposite side.that mean corsair ship undocked from freeport will not attack hunters, no matter if they are 5,10,20 or more klicks from freeport,and the same for hunters.on the evidence you see junters attacking kristina 10 k from freeport in theta. And how kristina asked for it?there was no single word from kristina to hunters or so...
Incoming transmission
ID: Oren Sheppard
To: Juan Montoya
I'm not absolutelly sure all of your last transmission was directed at me, but I'm sure the first sentence is, so let me answer that.
Yes, a Zoner destroyer in Gamma with hostile intentions is a threat to Crete, that is why I said it was plain stupid. Just in the same way that it is stupid to threaten Gran Canaria. I hope, we are clear on that.
Now i'm not so sure the rest was directed at me, but if it was, I'll try to answer that the best i can.
Regarding your previous dealings with the Zoners, I am young and I dont know all of Zoner history, I admit that. However that also means that I have no prejudices to sway my decision one way or another, I base it on the facts that are presented and I try to be fair about it the best I can.
Now it brings me to your statement about "I dont care" response, if this was directed at me, I humbly ask you to show me where I made that response.
Your last sentrence is clearly directed to all Zoners, so I'll just present my opinion about this: And what is the proper thing?
/*Sorry about ooc, but i think this needs to be said. Regarding the last incident what do you think can be done? Should the Zoners attack that destroyer? Yeah, right, we'd be banned quite soon for that as if you read the Zoner ID, they are allowed to hunt pirates and own cruisers. The problem here is that Zoner Rp is very unclear. We all have our own understanding of it, but it slightly differs with every person, and pretty much every person is right in some way.*/
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