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The Order - Future Direction
Offline Tovig
12-15-2009, 06:13 AM,
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Quote:The only thing the corsair alliance is doing for us, right now, is limiting our options in potential allies.

Sad but true.

And about Corsairs, they will be neutral, of course.
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Offline Sprolf
12-15-2009, 06:22 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-15-2009, 06:23 AM by Sprolf.)
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Hogosha just need to go, no matter what.

The only reason I can see that they were added to the Order's "allies" was to make OoRP smuggling easier.
Use the frickin' Sigmas, they need more love.

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Offline JW.corsair
12-15-2009, 06:23 AM,
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This is very true.

As for the Order Indies I have seen a slight decline in cap ships; however this may due to the times I am on.
If this proceeds as to what will happen to the present indies that are in the Order?
I know some are Pvp ***** but not all of them are.

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Offline DAnvilFan
12-15-2009, 06:51 AM,
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I support Order Primary Fleet's restrictions of capital ships.

Many like to throw the "faction power abuse" card on the table. The way I see it, if there was enough Admins to go around, they would be controlling the sale of capital ships for all factions. And very few people would complain because the firepower of a Battleship in the Freelancer universe is not something that should belong to every Joe Shmoe who happens to have the dough.

Giving a long standing group of players like the Order| the ability to control Battleship production is the way to go. There are "higher ups" in the faction that are experienced, know a good deal about proper roleplay, and are no less "fair" than the server Admins.
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Offline Tenacity
12-15-2009, 08:05 AM,
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Quote:I support Order Primary Fleet's restrictions of capital ships.

Many like to throw the "faction power abuse" card on the table.

The restriction of capital ships would not be the job of the primary fleet, but rather the high command, specifically for the reason you stated.

Order high command consists of both the Order| faction leaders, as well as several Order| -and- independent order players. This allows for an unbiased viewpoint, as all issues are voted on amongst players of both the faction and independents. That is why such restriction is more likely to work in our case, whereas for most factions there is no combined faction/indy group with authority over the rest.

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Offline reavengitair
12-15-2009, 08:09 AM,
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Seems people be ignoring me.

' Wrote:As you can see from my RP post to the order, the only way that a bd/order alliance will happen is if the order alliance was scrapped from ever happening. Should the alliance end, then we will possibly make them neutral/friendly. However, never a fully fledged alliance.
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Offline Tenacity
12-15-2009, 08:54 AM,
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Yes, we are ignoring you reav. You're asking for something that cannot be done, and being quite stubborn about it. Such a change is not in the power of the order's players to make, so how about you scratch it and start working towards improving the game instead of focusing on the impossible?


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Offline reavengitair
12-15-2009, 08:56 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-15-2009, 08:59 AM by equanimitee.)
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Exactly my point.

Quote:Such a change is not in the power of the order's players to make, so how about you scratch it and start working towards improving the game instead of focusing on the impossible?

Therefore there won't be an order-bd alliance, so could everyone stop saying that there will be, or automatically take it for granted!!!

There are plenty of other alliances that could be considered. BD is probably not one of them we should be focusing so intently on.
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Offline ... kur nubėgo?
12-15-2009, 10:30 AM,
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' Wrote:Sad but true.

And about Corsairs, they will be neutral, of course.


If you start picking on Corsair buissnes any of this: Human organs or the most important source of Income Artefacts, you'll end up hostile to corsairs. I bet you wouldn't like if corsairs would set up blockades for your supply ships either, ech? of course you don't.


Now about alliance agian. Sorry Tenacity but the bd leader has a point here.

Now in vanilla order didn't had any alliances. Only agents in factions who had some more power over other faction memebers. Like Kernal Kress (remember he doesn't sent whole army to help out agianst rehinland fleet, and remember teh part how the guard didn't know anything about "guests")

Ozu wasn't an Order and wasn't awere of the nomad posession. As I quoted his statement made in sp. Hakkera wasn't even a dragon.


The Bundschuh. They had their leader recruited, and he suicided bombed in the sp. That means.. oh you no longer have ties with them, unless you rp recruiting agents from other factions and they will agree on it. (this really could open quite an intresing rp situation)

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Offline NonSequitor
12-15-2009, 11:40 AM,
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I have sold my Osiris, so you'll have one less indie capship pilot to worry about. I sold it a couple weeks ago, basically out of boredom.

My BH has turned his gaze to other hunting grounds and is no longer a part of the Order - BH conflict.

The Order currently has no real mission other than entertain the occassional Corsair visitor and fight the BH.

Keepers seem to prefer fighter-to-fighter combat over capship encounters, so their presence is often lacking. Not a rant, just an observation.

The road Tenacity and some others are eager to take is the road of exclusivism. In that regard, be careful for what you wish for. You know the rest.

I think Dash is right on the money. Order rp will become mind-numbingly boring and frustrating if it follows the previously suggested route.

Even as a player that prefers caps, I always wondered why the Omega/Omicron factions have them. If it were up to me, the Order would have a 1 Osiris, 3 Resephs, the Keepers would have 1 BS and the BH, Corsairs and Outcasts would have nothing larger than gunboats. But, as Agmen pointed out, Pandora's Box has already been open.

In my opinion, the BH should just pull out of the whole Nomad tech acquisition quest. It's run its course. Let the Order handle the Nomads.

Dipolmacy is another matter - what's conceivable, what's workable vis-a-vis balance? Relations with Corsairs would be taut, due to the artifacts trade. But this doesn't necessarily mean open hostilities are warranted. The Order could have contacts in every faction, but maintain official ties with a few, established factions.

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