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Rp Background and Reasons
Offline Zelot
03-27-2009, 01:37 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-27-2009, 04:00 PM by Marburg.)
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To start, this is not an invitation for asking us to change our rp.. I have spoken with my memebers and Allies, and we are confident in the legitimacy of our rp. Our RP in Bretonia has absolutly nothing to do with the Privateers, it was not a reaction to them, it was not to be like them. We have our own reasons for being there.

A few points of reference before we begin reguarding the AFA and NLH relations

The rise and fall and rise of the AFA

NLH Message Dump

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[font=Times]The Artisan Farmers Alliance is an ultra nationalist sub group of the Farmers Alliance of Kusari, the militant wing of the Kusari Farmers Party. In fact, the AFA is a very small proportion of the overall FA forces. The AFA feels that the Artisan, traditional ways of growing food are superior, and need to be protected from the modern development of bio domes, synthfood and genetically / chemically altered produce. Ze'ev Barak, born Naato Togachi, is the current Taishi of the AFA, he is also a minister of government, representative of the Farmers Party. He is currently the most well known Farmers Alliance leader.

[font=Times]AFAs Goals

[font=Times]1) To protect the traditional values and culture of Kusari.


2) To work for the betterment of the Kusari workers

3) To protect and advance the status of the Farmer in the Kusari community

4) To defend Kusari from threats both foreign and domestic

5) To advance the goal of increasing Samuras corporate profile both within Kusari and outside

6) To work both inside of Kusari and outside to advance the use of artesian crafts and traditional process of production


One of the oldest diplomatic relations the AFA has is with the Bretonian group the NLH, a sub section of the Gaian movement, the militant wing of the Green Party. // This relation goes back over a year in real world time.// This relation is one of the closest that either group has. This relation was personally nurtured and developed by Barak and then leader of the NLH Sean Dawson. When Dawson was injured and incapacitated, Barak came immediately to Islay to check on the man who had become a close friend. When Damien McEwin took over leadership of the NLH, this relation between the AFA and NLH grew closer, with Damien and Ze'ev developing their own, close personal friendship. This personal relationship has helped lead to a very tight relation between the two factions.



[font=Times]One need only look at the message dumps of the BPA and QCRF to find reports of AFA operations in Bretonia dating back over a year. The AFA has made a practice of targeting Bretonian shipping, as well as defending themselves from the local authorities. These attacks are based on several basis's. First, Bretonia is the only food market not being infiltrated to one degree or another by Synthfoods, making it a huge potential resource for Samura. This Market has not developed a taste for Synthpaste, and therefore Samura wants to interfere with the current food distribution network in Bretonia. Second, as Kusari and Bretonia are at war, the Emperor has implored all Kusari citizens to contribute to the war effort in their own way. With it's close relations with the NLH, and it's long record of operating in Bretonia, the AFA are uniquely suited to acts as intermediary between the opposition groups in Bretonia, and KNF forces. Also AFA pilots are already familiar the ins and outs of Bretonian space, making them well suited to work with the KNF as scouts, and as an interdictor of Bretonian supply lines.




[font=Times]The AFA has been working in Bretonia proper much longer than the KNF, and has always had their own goals in mind when working there. Without the Bretonian corporate food producers, Samura becomes the only major producer of "real" food in Sirius. The AFA also uses Bretonia as a hunting ground for Libertonian transports due to the large number of them aiding Bretonia in the war effort.




The AFA's diplomacy is always in flux. It's relations with the KNF and KSP, which are currently friendly, are based on the AFA's efforts against the Bretonians, GC, and Blood Dragons. This relationship will have to be reviewed after the war is over, as the level of threat to Kusari will have changed one way or another.

The same can be said for the NLH, depending on how the war between the Kusari and the Bretonians, the relations of the of these two groups will have to be reevaluated. While this friendship runs deep each group must keep it's own interests in mind, and for the moment, both of their goals are in alignment.


Now, I will rationaly discuss any civil questions that are asked, but if your post is going to contain "Join the KNF" or "Your not doing what your NPC's do" I will not be responding. That said, I hope this answers some of the questions about the AFA's operations in Bretonia.

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Offline Blodo
03-27-2009, 02:10 AM,
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Let the first question come from me then: How is attacking the Bretonian Navy in Leeds furthering any of the six AFA goals outlined above?

Firstly, in my view none of the goals can be connected to Bretonia whatsoever. Numbers 1, 2 and 3 do not apply, because this is not a fight related at all to Kusari agriculture. Number 4 also does not apply, the AFA are clearly on the offensive here. Number 5 hardly applies considering that Leeds is currently a warzone, the stations captured by the KNF are more of a military outpost under occupation than a properly functioning base at the moment (or at least logically that should be the case), which means neither Samura nor Kishiro would have much going on there. They are still fighting over the area with the Bretonians after all. Number 6... Leeds is an industrial system - it has no farming infrastructure in it whatsoever, not even synth biodomes.
Consider this also, that Bretonian food is produced on only one planet: Cambridge. It is very likely not a monopolised corporate enterprise, instead being groups of private farmers growing crops. Bretonia is heavily resisting Synth Foods expansion, and is encouraging crops growth on the surface of Cambridge - that alone should make the AFA no less than sympathetic to Bretonian food producers.

Secondly, when was a time a military allowed civilian militias to roam around a foreign battlefield, looking for trouble? I'd say the KNF would be much more likely to dismiss any AFA attempt to try to work with them, instead of - hell, allowing them outright docking rights on the occupied Stokes station. If they wanted to use a bunch of farmer political activists for mapping purposes, they would probably just call on them to hand over their sensor logs, and do the rest of the work themselves.
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Offline Zelot
03-27-2009, 02:18 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-27-2009, 02:20 AM by Zelot.)
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' Wrote:Let the first question come from me then: How is attacking the Bretonian Navy in Leeds furthering any of the six AFA goals outlined above?

Firstly, in my view none of the goals can be connected to Bretonia whatsoever. Numbers 1, 2 and 3 do not apply, because this is not a fight related at all to Kusari agriculture. Number 4 also does not apply, the AFA are clearly on the offensive here. Number 5 hardly applies considering that Leeds is currently a warzone, the stations captured by the KNF are more of a military outpost under occupation than a properly functioning base at the moment (or at least logically that should be the case), which means neither Samura nor Kishiro would have much going on there. They are still fighting over the area with the Bretonians after all. Number 6... Leeds is an industrial system - it has no farming infrastructure in it whatsoever, not even synth biodomes.
Consider this also, that Bretonian food is produced on only one planet: Cambridge. It is very likely not a monopolised corporate enterprise, instead being groups of private farmers growing crops. Bretonia is heavily resisting Synth Foods expansion, and is encouraging crops growth on the surface of Cambridge - that alone should make the AFA no less than sympathetic to Bretonian food producers.

Secondly, when was a time a military allowed civilian militias to roam around a foreign battlefield, looking for trouble? I'd say the KNF would be much more likely to dismiss any AFA attempt to try to work with them, instead of - hell, allowing them outright docking rights on the occupied Stokes station. If they wanted to use a bunch of farmer political activists for mapping purposes, they would probably just call on them to hand over their sensor logs, and do the rest of the work themselves.



First, we decide what is in defense of Kusari. Second, look to Blackwater for a situation where non-military forces were sent in armed to roam a battlefield.

As you say # 4 doesnt apply, defence in this use of the term does not mean in a defensive capacity, it means working toward the defense of the nation, which sometimes requires going on the offensive.




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Offline Blodo
03-27-2009, 02:30 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-27-2009, 02:31 AM by Blodo.)
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So that's the only reason? Because "we want to"? That makes a lot of sense for a political party which is supposed to take care of Kusari farmers. Synth Foods is moving in in Kusari while AFA are out in Bretonia shooting unrelated people in a war that doesn't concern them in the slightest. Sorry, but that's just illogical and borderline powerplaying.

Blackwater were mercenaries employed by another government with a completely different culture than that of Kusari. AFA aren't even mercenaries, let alone culturally similar to today's USA.
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Offline Zelot
03-27-2009, 02:34 AM,
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Is there a question for me to answer in any of that?

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Offline Patriot
03-27-2009, 02:34 AM,
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The [AFA] have nothing to do in Bretonia,same for the Hoshoga,from the time Kusarian break in Leeds we see both in Leeds everyday............everyday!!!!!!!



Reason:NONE................both of ya have your interest in Kusari,and only there,Bretonia are a [KNF] job.

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Offline Zelot
03-27-2009, 02:36 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-27-2009, 02:39 AM by Zelot.)
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' Wrote:The [AFA] have nothing to do in Bretonia,same for the Hoshoga,from the time Kusarian break in Leeds we see both in Leeds everyday............everyday!!!!!!!



Reason:NONE................both of ya have your interest in Kusari,and only there,Bretonia are a [KNF] job.



Patriot, have you read any part of the post? The AFA have been operating in Bretonia for over a year.

Edit: And is there a question in there?

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Offline Patriot
03-27-2009, 02:39 AM,
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' Wrote:Patriot, have you read any part of the post? The AFA have been operating in Bretonia for over a year.



Ya still have nothing to do there,its like if the unioners in rheinland go attack theLibertonian because liberty an rheinland are in war...........that not their business



Same for you and the [AFA]

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Offline Zelot
03-27-2009, 02:40 AM,
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And the reason no one complained for over a year?

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Offline Blodo
03-27-2009, 02:41 AM,
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' Wrote:Is there a question for me to answer in any of that?
Yes, the question is: Where is the preservation of the NPC faction RP then? I mean, the goals you posted - sure, they fit in (aside from the ludicrous explanation for hostilies in Bretonia which I already explained above why it doesn't stick at all). But the problem is you guys don't seem to follow them one bit.
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