GMG's new use of labour.

[Friday]

A PoW commodity would be ideal wouldnt it?

Whilst a prisoner, slave or PoW could all end up in the same boat - the terms do carry different political connotations depending on who is involved.

As for not initiating diplomacy being a 'cop-out' - you will have to take that up with the Guild Masters.

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[ProwlerPC]

Nah, Blunt means GMG buying slaves but freeing Bretonian ones to keep relations with Bretonia from going sour may be a cop out.
As for not initiating diplomatic decrees and plunging into making RP deals, well this thread is an example why as well as the Okinawa thread we went through earlier. Changes are still being discussed and made. If I had begun when Beta2 first launched it would have to have been redone as commodities got shifted around. Once all the little details are ironed out (including these discussions) we'll be fully ready when the official launch happens as we'll be well informed.
That being said, we have still begun RPing in-game, somethings are static and opbviously won't get a sudden change. We still patrol our space and now that H-fuel provides in-game profit we have the added irritant of thieves flying by all middlemen and coming to turn on the taps at Fujisawa to get their fill. Naturally our reaction is an aggressive one for those thieves. I guess a posted waring will be made real soon. I have the weekend off to catch things up.

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[Gamazson]

While the slaves being purchased by Ishera depot is a new development that I havent done anything about, GMG / Kishiro are not the only lawfuls involved with slavery. In the Slavers Union faction proposal I have written this about Daumann and LPI involvement. I will update soonish on the new take for Ishera.

Liberty

The house of Liberty strife with corruption of all forms and is a large scale supplier of slaves. Many laws in Liberty have been designed to increase the number of arrests that can be made by Liberty Police Incorporated to help supply Liberty's internal prisoner work force. In addition to creating a low cost work force these laws have given the politicians of Liberty considerably popularity. However these laws have become a victim of their own success with many of the lower class citizens being arrested for minor infractions creating a massive explosion in prison population.

Rather than back off on arrests the lose profit and the support of politicians, LPI has been slowly filtering inmates onto the black market. In exchange for helping to front LPI's slaves, select leaders of the Liberty Rogues and Junkers are given limited clemency by LPI's upper management. This is not however a carte blanche for Junkers and Rogues to do as they please and both organizations have frequently sold members of their own organizations who have foolishly gotten themselves arrested and subsequently enslaved. The Liberty Navy and the Liberty Security force have both been making passing attempts to crack down on the slave trade within Liberty but LPI has been carefully orchestrating intelligence to keep both groups more preoccupied with other concerns.

Rheinland

The once great industrial giant of Daumann has been unable to stay competitive. Since the end of the first Nomad war the corporation of Daumann has been hit with hard times, due to many changes to Rheinland. New socialist labor laws have Daumann facilities prohibitively costly to upgrade to proper safety conditions, and the corporation likewise cannot afford to shut them down. As such Daumann has entered into underground contracts with many slavery operations to supply the work force for Solarius station and several of the Military Vehicle production facilities on Nuremberg. Officially listed as a prisoner work force the slaves under Daumann's employ work extremely long shifts under the most dangerous conditions in Sirius.

The Union vessels deciding to trade with Daumann do so at great risk. Although Rheinland authorities do not enjoy the presence of slavers, its criminal elements pose the greatest danger. Despite the fact that many of the Red Hessians and Unioners have allowed their ideals become twisted enough to make them Liberty politicians, they and the more politically active LWB and Bundscuch movements have been trying to expose Daumann's corruption. The more slaver transports they intercept the greater their public exposure becomes improving the political strength of all the groups and serving as a critical tool for recruitment. The LWB operate a rehabilitation center on their new Kaiserslautern Depot where liberated slaves are regularly dropped off and picked up by the various pirate groups.

Although the Rheinland the government is aware of Daumann's activities, the start of the war with Liberty has put them in a difficult spot. If Daumann's actions were exposed the corporation would collapse and put the Rheinland industrial sector into disarray. Since any further weakness in Rheinland's economy would give Liberty the ability to conquer Rheinland without a shot fired, slaver vessels are not actively hunted. However pirate factions within Rheinland are creating strong anti-slavery sympathy among the citizens. Any slaver dumb enough to be caught in public view is destroyed to and broadcasted to the media to help gain public support back towards the Government.

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AKA Nexus

[Zelot]

So my question about all of this is, Why would Kusari give the GMG their prisoners when they could just as easily have them work for Kusari. Also, these are prisoners, why would Kusari trust the GMG to keep them locked up. Seems to me, even if the Kusari did let POW's work for the GMG, they would still have Kusari military police guarding them.

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[jimmy Patterson]

so are the LN/LSF currupt or just the LPI and as corprations run the goverment LN and LSF's hands are tied?

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kudos tommeh for sig

[hack]

And where did this all come about from? I don't remember anyone consulting with the LN/LSF/LPI on this.

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Formerly known as LPI Police Chief Hull O'Brien.
Creator of Sgt. V. Price, 207th Precinct out of Chula Vista Station

[DeathsOverture]

So my question about all of this is, Why would Kusari give the GMG their prisoners when they could just as easily have them work for Kusari. Also, these are prisoners, why would Kusari trust the GMG to keep them locked up. Seems to me, even if the Kusari did let POW's work for the GMG, they would still have Kusari military police guarding them.

Hmm, my take on the whole thing is that the GMG reluctantly agreed to put the prisoners to work. Besides, Kusari has a war to worry about.

I'm not sure why LPI being corrupt came up. The purpose of this thread was to see if there were any RP backlashes on the GMG for us having prisoners working in our mines.

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[Dab]

So my question about all of this is, Why would Kusari give the GMG their prisoners when they could just as easily have them work for Kusari. Also, these are prisoners, why would Kusari trust the GMG to keep them locked up. Seems to me, even if the Kusari did let POW's work for the GMG, they would still have Kusari military police guarding them.

Uhh, 'Kusari' itself has nothing for them to work on. They'd either have to give the POWs to Kishiro or Samura if they were to go out working. Considering Kishiro's need for them is greater than Samura (Samura really doesn't have many operations that would benefit from slave-type labor, until 4.86), it makes sense that they'd be the ones receiving them. In return, the Kusari government doesn't have to pay all the costs that come with imprisoning POWs, while at the same time, it reduces the prices of the Plutonium Kishiro is producing, due to lower worker costs.

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[Zelot]

Uhh, 'Kusari' itself has nothing for them to work on. They'd either have to give the POWs to Kishiro or Samura if they were to go out working. Considering Kishiro's need for them is greater than Samura (Samura really doesn't have many operations that would benefit from slave-type labor, until 4.86), it makes sense that they'd be the ones receiving them. In return, the Kusari government doesn't have to pay all the costs that come with imprisoning POWs, while at the same time, it reduces the prices of the Plutonium Kishiro is producing, due to lower worker costs.

I am sure with the war on, many citizens who would normaly be in the lower end of the industrial or agriculture sector would have signed up with the KNF, meaning that there would in fact be a significant amount of work for these prisoners to be doing IN Kusari.

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[bluntpencil2001]

So my question about all of this is, Why would Kusari give the GMG their prisoners when they could just as easily have them work for Kusari. Also, these are prisoners, why would Kusari trust the GMG to keep them locked up. Seems to me, even if the Kusari did let POW's work for the GMG, they would still have Kusari military police guarding them.

Good point.

I suppose the GMG could be paying the KNF for them... but it seems unlikely.

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