' Wrote:How does doing something in addition to the things our Vanilla faction did, "Completely Change" the faction?
Edit: Wouldnt that mean the Privateers "Completly Change" the BAF vanilla faction?
Because the Farmer's Alliance were formed to keep Synth Foods and other foreign commerce out of Kusari. Attacking Bretonia doesn't achieve that at all.
The BAF exists to protect Bretonia. The Privateers do that via unorthodox strategy.
' Wrote:Because the Farmer's Alliance were formed to keep Synth Foods and other foreign commerce out of Kusari. Attacking Bretonia doesn't achieve that at all.
The BAF exists to protect Bretonia. The Privateers do that via unorthodox strategy.
The AFA is still protecting Kusari from SynthFoods and other Foreign companies. We also from time to time, use our unique skill set and background to help in the war effort. This does not conflict with the Vanilla rp.
hmryeah. It's like asking Xenos to go across kusari border. They wouldn't. They are a small organisation bent on killing anything not libertonian. Within Liberty and its borders.
I see FA as the same...
So unless FA is so large (which I can't be certain since synth food does seems popular to Kusari, especially youth), why would they strike in Bretonia with such ambitious plans?
It would be extending the influence and power of a relatively small vanilla faction to the extent of a pirate faction of, I'd say, Hessian caliber.
' Wrote:hmryeah. It's like asking Xenos to go across kusari border. They wouldn't. They are a small organisation bent on killing anything not libertonian.
I see FA as the same...
So unless FA is so large (which I can't be certain since synth food does seems popular to Kusari, especially youth), why would they strike in Bretonia with such ambitious plans?
It would be extending the influence and power of a relatively small vanilla faction to the extent of a pirate faction of, I'd say, Hessian caliber.
As I have said before, the AFA are a small segment of the FA. And the AFA is not the Xeno's we are a highly trained, well funded, experienced private military group. Also, please do not base what you think the FA should do on what you think the Xeno's would do, two different groups, different economic, equipment and training levels, along with a totally different culture.
I dunno, I suppose I should ask the KNF why they allow a bunch of civilian militias on a militarised station then... Frankly, the AFA members' pasts are irrelevant, the present is that they are currently little more than a militia that the government has not seen fit to declare hostile. Certainly not government employed mercenaries (hence why the Blackwater reference doesn't apply). You operate in conjuction with the Gaians - fine, but that still doesn't explain how attacking Bretonia accomplishes any of the AFA's goals. In response to your post Zelot, Samura does not have any financial interests in Bretonia. At least not yet. Interdiction of Bretonian supply lines does exactly nil to further your political agenda in Kusari.
Come to think of it, why are Gaians openly helping Kusari when the Green Front is a party in the Bretonian parliament, lobbying for change there? Wouldn't that, you know, hurt their cause a bit...?
' Wrote:As I have said before, the AFA are a small segment of the FA. And the AFA is not the Xeno's we are a highly trained, well funded, experienced private military group.
The Xenos are just as well trained and equipped, as evidenced by the fact that they have many more high level NPCs, and much more bases than the Farmers. In fact, the Xenos are one of the biggest unlawful factions after the Outcasts, Corsairs and Hessians.
Yep, I think a good test of 'completely changing' your faction's RP can be seen when you look at a list of bases your faction bases off. If it consists of:
Your faction's bases, and no others - you probably haven't changed that much!
If it consists of
"Islay Base in Edinburgh (6 k from the Leeds JH) the Kusari Battleship Yamaguchi in Tau 31, Shinakuk Station, a Samura base, all of 15k from the Tau31 jg and 10k from the tau 31 jh, Oso Station a KNF base(you know it as Glasgow), Daisin station a Samura base (you know it as Stokes) Battleship Nagasaki"
then it looks like you've made some pretty huge changes!
A pretty direct parallel to this would be seeing the LWB raiding Gamma or pirating in O-3. I don't think people would see this and say 'hmm, this seems pretty vanilla'
' Wrote:I dunno, I suppose I should ask the KNF why they allow a bunch of civilian militias on a militarised station, because to me this makes no sense at all. Frankly, the AFA members' pasts are irrelevant, the present is that they are currently little more than a militia that the government has not seen fit to declare hostile. You operate with conjuction with the Gaians - fine, but that still doesn't explain how attacking Bretonia accomplishes any of the AFA's goals. In response to your post Zelot, Samura does not have any financial interests in Bretonia. At least not yet. Interdiction of Bretonian supply lines does exactly nil to further your political agenda in Kusari.
Come to think of it, why are Gaians openly helping Kusari when the Green Front is a party in the Bretonian parliament, lobbying for change there? Wouldn't that, you know, hurt their cause a bit...?
I have answered your questions. You dont think my answers are valid, I do. The problem is that we are both players here. In the end, in my feeling is that if rp like this is not doing harm to another's rp, then it should be allowed. Now, if someone can tell me how this is harming anyone elses rp, I might think about changing my stance.
' Wrote:hmryeah. It's like asking Xenos to go across kusari border. They wouldn't. They are a small organisation bent on killing anything not libertonian. Within Liberty and its borders.
Actually the Xenos happily venture into Shikoku and Hamburg. The primary reason why neither has happened often has been due to a lack of practical incentive to do so. Which is almost certainly changing with the new trade routes.
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As to the OP, eh, you probably shouldn't have listed out six bullet points if your goals don't coincide with any of them. Probably better to come up with something new for the argument to revolve around if you want to make a convincing case.
At the end of the day the FA are a domestic concern with very clear political goals, throwing their resources into harrying the war effort is at the detriment of accomplishing those goals. Which, ironically, suits me just fine as it allows me to smuggle with impunity through Kusarian space while her native guardians are off in Leeds catcalling the BAF from the shadow of the Nagasaki.
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