Quote:1. They may well be deliberately faulty.
2. They may be a cover for espionage operations.
3. It puts money in the pocket of the rheinland government, which is extremely bad given the above.
1. Thats just bad business sense. Unless the trader blatantly expresses that his destination is Liberty, I somehow doubt that they're going to take a magnet to the Mech's electronics or a hammer to the weapon's clip. Otherwise they'd be shipping rubbish goods across Sirius and would, in the end, go bankrupt.
2. Like, "Here's some weapons, rejoice, kinsmen! Oh dear where's the bathroom? Maybe this password locked terminal might tell me! *cough*" Not quite sure how that works, but maybe I misunderstand.
3. Might I point out that money was pocketed by the Rheinland government at the point of purchase by the trader? The fact that its been done is a bygone, at least Liberty might still benefit if the weapons are indeed functional.
It would seem the embargo would increase the potential for smuggling, in theory. It gives a huge opportunity to smuggle goods that aren't completely illegal. But then, it seems there are too many people just plain ignorant of things to make it fun to try and stop.
Secondly:
Quote:Planetform carrying commodities related to terraforming (even in Kusari, since a terraforming operation is going on in Okinawa)
Why would Planetform do that though? Samura is supposed to handle that sort of thing in Kusari and, in fact, they're in a much better position for it anyway given they supply Alien Organisms, too.
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Why would Planetform do that though? Samura is supposed to handle that sort of thing in Kusari and, in fact, they're in a much better position for it anyway given they supply Alien Organisms, too.
I thought Okinawa was being overseen by the GMG, no?
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' Wrote:Wait, am I misreading, or are you saying the GMG is getting into terraforming now, too?
Oh, yeah, everyone's getting into the terraforming business these days. It's so simple. Masayuki Minamoto is terraforming that planet out in the Independent Worlds by himself, it should be habitable by 4.86.
Seriously though, what? Planetform, obviously. Samura, sure, makes sense for Kusari to handle that in-house. The GMG? what.
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' Wrote:What is the point of an embargo? In real life the point is to cause damage to your opponent. Since Freelancer's game mechanics are unaffected by who is transporting x cargo to y location, this is less relevant to us. The main point of an embargo in Freelancer must then be the creation of additional roleplaying opportunities. Depending on the way they are constructed, embargoes may enhance roleplaying, or it may eliminate it entirely.
Someone explain how the current Liberty embargo creates additional roleplaying opportunities when the sole practical effect of the embargo's success is the complete and total elimination of all roleplaying opportunities involving traders navigating between Rheinland and Liberty.
When such cannot be done (and it never has been), then the conclusions are inescapable :
The current Liberty embargo benefits only one group : Liberty lawfuls who want to blow up transports.
It harms the unlawfuls who will consequently have far fewer traders to pirate in between Liberty and Rheinland.
It harms the Rheinland lawfuls who will consequently have far fewer traders leaving Liberty for Rheinland or Rheinland for Liberty whom they might themselves interact with.
It harms other traders in Liberty who will consequently have less protection from pirates elsewhere in Liberty because of the Liberty lawfuls' overemphasis on Texas, and as a corollary, every other system in Liberty is similarly harmed by this overemphasis.
It harms the Liberty lawful factions themselves, by encouraging overly belligerent, abusive, and intolerant attitudes on the part of Liberty lawful characters, as evidenced here, and here, and thus turns Liberty lawful factions into a further object of scorn and ridicule.
The current terms of Liberty's embargo destroy far more roleplaying opportunities than they create, and they do so to the benefit of a tiny minority while imposing their harms on the majority.
The Liberty embargo should be amended to fall into line with the embargos enforced by the other Houses, which create roleplaying opportunities for every faction affected by them, which the Liberty embargo currently fails to do.
' Wrote:Imports brought to your House by neutral or friendly traders from your enemy House should be welcomed, while exports from your House to your enemy House should be interdicted (unless the cargo is people or humanitarian supplies). Blanket bans on trade discourage the creation of roleplaying opportunities, and are ultimately destructive to server gameplay.
Bretonian corporations smuggling Rheinland-produced commodities into Liberty is a roleplay that should be heartily encouraged by Liberty, not punished. That benefits every faction involved in the Liberty-Rheinland conflict, while the current embargo benefits only a tiny minority while harming everyone else.
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Quote:Bretonian corporations smuggling Rheinland-produced commodities into Liberty is a roleplay that should be heartily encouraged by Liberty, not punished. That benefits every faction involved in the Liberty-Rheinland conflict, while the current embargo benefits only a tiny minority while harming everyone else.
Except, why would a Bretonian corporation risk the legal consequences of such a matter? If they really wanted to move the cargo, they'd go around through Bretonia. More profit is good, but Rheinland wouldn't levy any fines for both breaking the embargo and possibly export taxes?
But, yes, both sides should do like Rheinland is now - welcoming anyone shipping INTO their nation.
I think Xoria is quite right, and frankly, I consider embargoes pretty inappropriate play when done by house military factions with no regard to corporate factions whom the embargoes directly affect. Frankly, I think it's quite a lack of courtesy for fellow players.
That said, while Xoria is right in principle, I don't know that effecting the changes he suggests would make that much of a difference. Gateway, for instance, is not about to risk getting blacklisted by the Rheinland government for attempting to run the embargo, removing yet another house from our trade routes. Indies might want to do this, but I can't imagine corporate factions wanting to take this risk.
' Wrote:Wait, am I misreading, or are you saying the GMG is getting into terraforming now, too?
*Points at the Roleplay of Okinawa*
I didn't write it, but yes.
' Wrote:Except, why would a Bretonian corporation risk the legal consequences of such a matter? If they really wanted to move the cargo, they'd go around through Bretonia. More profit is good, but Rheinland wouldn't levy any fines for both breaking the embargo and possibly export taxes?
That's what us Bretonian Factions do...
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