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Put things like that in the ship description.
Offline Simo
04-25-2009, 08:37 AM,
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Baltar if you mean that ive been sanctioned then i havent, but what i think you mean is that its like ive been sanctioned? then i agree, admin say they wont give me the 93 because i diddnt read the ID on the forums, which i think is unfair.

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Offline Jinx
04-25-2009, 08:53 AM,
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i have put it up in the dev forum to add the restrictions into the AI shipline ID texts.

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Offline Simo
04-25-2009, 08:55 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-25-2009, 08:55 AM by Simo.)
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Every Item+Ship that is restricted should have a note in description

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Offline Jinx
04-25-2009, 09:07 AM,
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almost EVERY ship is restricted in a way...

outcasts don t get to use corsairs ships
the liberty navy is not allowed rheinland ships
humans factions are not allowed pure AI ships
corsairs are not allowed bretonian ships

etc.

as a matter of fact, there are only very FEW ships that are really free for all. - for example... we haven t put it into the ID text that Zoners cannot use the Titan. or that hackers cannot use the inferno. or that junkers cannot fly outcast dreadnoughts.

some of the cases are simply self explanatory. - of course, in the case of the AI ships - it was a bit foggy... but i think in the numerous threads, we have explained it quite detailed now what is to be understood under the term "AI" ( so... not just a flying computer, but just a specific type of flying computer )

if players see loopholes in it, its mostly cause they wish to see loopholes in it. ( which is OK from a RP point of view... but we simply cannot close every loophole )

so - of course you don t see a corsair using a sabre, even if its not stated in their ID.... why? cause "one does not do it"

so the question remains - why would a player belonging to a human faction wish to use a ship that is related to a faction that originates from a system that has killed en entire colony, is alien infested and all in all so far away that no one stumbles over it by accident.

i hardly see corsairs flying zoner destroyers - and those are much much easier to explain in RP - or apply for IMG battlecruisers. - yes, one gets carried away a bit sometimes... but putting everything into a rule is really a bit much if we can expect the players to be attentative and responsible for their actions, too. many people have a very clear understanding of what is OK and what is not.... many people test the bondaries of whats right in an urge to be a bit more special than others - and thats natural, too.
if one asked oneself though - there are many an arguments for a human faction against an AI core ship against a lot less arguments that speak for the use of an AI core ship.

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Offline Simo
04-25-2009, 09:15 AM,
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Jinx thats not the point, everybody knows that crosairs cant use outcast ships im talking about the ships that are admin issued or the id admin issued only.

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Offline reavengitair
04-25-2009, 09:45 AM,
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Quote:hackers cannot use the inferno.

Ehh? They can't?
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Offline Jihadjoe
04-25-2009, 01:10 PM,
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' Wrote:Baltar if you mean that ive been sanctioned then i havent, but what i think you mean is that its like ive been sanctioned? then i agree, admin say they wont give me the 93 because i diddnt read the ID on the forums, which i think is unfair.


Simo, allow me to make a few points.

1. In dealing with this you have been rude to me from the outset.
2. You were massively impatient while I clarified a few things.
3. You are attempting to lay the 'blame' (given your series of PM's to me) for the loss of your 93 million on the admin team.

Now, point 3 is the most absurd.

I am not a part of the dev team, the infocards are not writen by the admin team. You should have done a little more research before buying the ship.

Now, as to writing things such as this on the infocard for a ship I'm both for and against it.

For: It would save on confusion with -certain- ships such as this.
Against: All infocards are writen In RP. Putting OOC information such as this on them would be a shame in my opinion.

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Offline Jinx
04-25-2009, 01:25 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-25-2009, 01:25 PM by Jinx.)
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@raevengitair:

lets say - they shouldn t really. - the outcasts made that weapon out of desperation to deal with the corsairs tizona line..... a situation the hackers had never been in. - they always had access to the very nice debilitators manufactured by ageira.

so - yes, hackers "can" mount and use infernos and cheeta thrusters.......... but one might also consider those two items to be quite jealously guarded by the outcasts.

no need to discuss it here - that is my own opinion, you re free to have yours.

@Simo:

and thats the problem.... when we thought out the ID cards, we thought that "everyone would know that they re not flying a nasty looking AI ship that is shaped like a space monster" - and we thought its self explanatory that such ships are not just used as faction ships by human factions..

turns out, we were wrong.

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Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever
04-26-2009, 03:53 AM,
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It is very hard to get admin permission, I would go for a different ship.
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