Just a Question/Disscussion

[Montezuma/Kukulcan]

You just need 4 seconds facing the enemy to kill him.

4 coladas = non-existent sheild

SNAC = explosion and lots of flames

And that would be that, killing someone in 1 or 2 jousts is a big pro and balences out the slowness completely.

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[seamus]

Jumping to conclusions again eh Athenian? That's your problem.

I stated either a Prototype bomber which would be a little more agile not more agile than the others just a little bit.
Or the Roc.

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Once a Man who are Selling Ships see an Big Battleship he Ask the Commander from the Battleship that he want to sell this ship, but the Commander wouldnt he say I have an binding to this ship I dont sell this ship for All Money in Sirius so as the Commander and his Crew at Freeport 9 sleeping the Man and his Pirates the buy for much money going into the ship and stole the Battleship Next morning as the Commander and his Crew go to there ship it was not there...

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The greatest Roleplay ever of an Outcast Battleship being "Stolen"

[teschy]

It's about balance, Seamus. The corsairs get the best shieldbusters in game, that compensates with less maneuverable ships. The outcasts get a smaller bomber powerplant, and the inferno. Other factions get either unique stuff (e.g. The Barghest and Fafnir have an additional CD slot), or simply a little better handling, but that's all.

You should also know that in this current version, the outcasts are really spoiled with one of (if not) the widest variety of ships and equipment.

[seamus]

firstly the Barghest has a Frieghter sheild which has 24k capacity,
Secondly Monte, In all my time on my corsair I have rarely seen you fly a bomber only ur capship, So who are you too comment?

As for the Corsairs bomber being hard to hit with an SN? are you kidding me? honestly? the Sair Bomber is quite useless Vs other bombers and when you dont fly fighters it gets quite annoying.

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Once a Man who are Selling Ships see an Big Battleship he Ask the Commander from the Battleship that he want to sell this ship, but the Commander wouldnt he say I have an binding to this ship I dont sell this ship for All Money in Sirius so as the Commander and his Crew at Freeport 9 sleeping the Man and his Pirates the buy for much money going into the ship and stole the Battleship Next morning as the Commander and his Crew go to there ship it was not there...

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The greatest Roleplay ever of an Outcast Battleship being "Stolen"

[Athenian]

Jumping to conclusions again eh Athenian? That's your problem.

I stated either a Prototype bomber which would be a little more agile not more agile than the others just a little bit.
Or the Roc.

I couldn't give a fig what you fly. I don't like your snide tone either.

"a little more agile not more agile than the others"
How can something be a little more than something and not more agile than it at the same time?

The conclusion I leapt to was one you stated yourself - you think your bomber isn't agile enough against other ships, so you want:
a. access to the civvie Roc bomber, which is much better (I refuse to let anyone in our faction fly the civvie bomber or the eagle, because the only real justification for it is to get a PvP edge. There is no real RP justification for another ship when your faction has a perfectly good one.)
OR
b. a "prototype" bomber, which of course would be better, because you were beaten in your praetorian
AND
c. all of this and the Corsair ID

Accessing other ships is a question of perception. If people encounter you in your Roc bomber with a Corsair ID and Corsair weapons, they will most likely think what I thought of Corsairs flying Eagles with Nomad weapons - this is a player who plays for PvP.

It's the "squeaky wheel" demand for a new ship because you find yourself getting killed by others in ships only marginally more agile, and most likely piloted by more skilled people, that I find, frankly, ridiculous and tiresome. It's a weekly event here recently and it goes like this...
1. player loses fight in ship
2. player posts on forum for buff or new ship or nerf of enemy ship

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[Montezuma/Kukulcan]

Secondly Monte, In all my time on my corsair I have rarely seen you fly a bomber only ur capship, So who are you too comment?

That is because my bomber goes by the name of Kukulcan and is currently stationed in trafalgar, for pirating purposes. This means i have encountered many, many BAFs and BHGs all wanting to kill me, some mollys as well, this means that i would say that i can comment as i am being chalenged routenly every few minuites.

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[seamus]

Athenian what are you talking about? Snide remarks? looks like the only one here with a problem is you And if you dont like it then i suggest you go to a different thread where people may actually want you to post there, After your last remarks I certainly Do Not want you posting here.

I have rarely died on my corsair Bomber and when i do die its because of the BHG fools that CD whore and metagame, Its not my problem the hunters have a Bad rep, You chose to try and fix it, Your doing a good job.
When your pilots just go to PvP whore and metagame, thats where it turns bad again, So i suggest you take it to them.

Now I was asking for a prototype corsair bomber with better agility than the Praetorian and less Agility than a BHG Bomber, So in theory your ships still have the advantage so what are you complaining about?

The ships stats should look roughly like this:
Guns 2
Turrets 2
20k hull
50k Power
dual Cd/Torp slots
Mine And CMs

Now whats wrong with that? It even looks underpowered, But obviously you'll find something to come to the post and whine about Again.
So why do I Bother?

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Once a Man who are Selling Ships see an Big Battleship he Ask the Commander from the Battleship that he want to sell this ship, but the Commander wouldnt he say I have an binding to this ship I dont sell this ship for All Money in Sirius so as the Commander and his Crew at Freeport 9 sleeping the Man and his Pirates the buy for much money going into the ship and stole the Battleship Next morning as the Commander and his Crew go to there ship it was not there...

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The greatest Roleplay ever of an Outcast Battleship being "Stolen"

[Hawkwings]

Last I checked, bombers were meant (in-RP) at least to take out capships. This is one big pvp-fest where people are trying to get advantages over each other.

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[Robert.Fitzgerald]

I have a great balance request. The Bounty Hunter bomber has a smaller powerplant than the Praetorian, so can it get a power boost? Please? Or maybe make a Bounty Hunter Bomber MkII which has more power!

No. Make do with the Praetorian. You're supposed to be proud of your ships.

Plus, it seems you're the pvp-whoring metagamer here, not the Bounty Hunters. You're the one complaining how the heavy Praetorian, the pride of Corsair engineering, is "crap" because you've seen the OOC stats of the roc and bounty hunter bomber.

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[RingoW]

C'mon folks, let him try the Roc, if he will be happy with and wants a ship he can fight other bomber and caps with.

@seamus: If you want to counter a BHG bomber or Falcata effectively, try Centurion or Gladiator. Especially the Centurion with the new Espada shieldbuster is quite dangerous to bomber.

I really hope, bomber will lose their jack of all trades status in future development, reduced to its single task to fight capships and transports.

AoM