In response to recent GMG - KNF diplomacy

[BaconSoda]

I tend to be a 'glass is half full' person.

I do hope this is a serious attempt at roleplay - not a cynical stunt to push through mod changes...

This is a serious attempt at Roleplay. If I was not here to perpetuate Roleplaying, then I would not be posting in this thread trying to make sense of something that makes utterly no sense in RP (If you'll excuse me for stating my opinion).

The fact of the matter is that to continue such Roleplay so that it makes sense for both parties is to change the mod. I mean, look at Okinawa and the number of threads that have resulted in talking about its change (Or were started simply for that fact). This is the third major one I have seen, and I'm sure there are a couple little ones laying around here somewhere. I don't know about you, but to me, that says that something needs to be changed.

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[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.

[Dusty Lens]

I've observed that the Okinawa threads have largely been created or perpetrated by the same individuals as opposed to any great concern community wide. That does certainly say something.

[Jien Kogen]

I've observed that the Okinawa threads have largely been created or perpetrated by the same individuals as opposed to any great concern community wide. That does certainly say something.

You mean the leadership of the Kusasri lawful factions? Yes, that makes sense as we are the one's it's effecting. Can't imagine the leaders of Liberty, Rhienland, or Bretonia would care all that much. You know just as well as anyone else that threads are started by those involved. Aside from that Dusty, I fail to see how your comments do anything to add to this discussion, to the contrary they seem intent on starting needless flames, something I am very disappointed in coming from someone who was chosen as a moderator, and who is supposed to be acting as an example to the community.

To Add to that, while the Kusari leaders may have started the threads, you will see feedback from all over the community in those threads, agreeing that something is wrong. Dusty, I suggest when you have nothing to do with a conversation, and there are no moderator duties to be done, that you just stay out of it, because you clearly are not trying to bring anything constructive to the conversation. Maybe a moderator should remove that last post.

Edit: And dusty, I belive your sig is too big. Why dont you actually do what you are supposed to and take care of that.

[Dusty Lens]

As a member of the GMG I am well entitled to post in this thread. My post, accused of being a flame, is little more than an observation that anyone with a pair of eyes in his head can ascertain for himself in addition to being the subject of much conversation in other channels.

If you took it as personally offensive I would dare say that perhaps a moment of introspection is in order. It was an extremely mild comment after all, hardly worth resorting to personal attacks and sputtering.

I feel that there is definitely a justifiable claim in the accusation that personal bias and agenda are playing through in the conduct of this affair. Certain key aspects of Kusari history and culture are being casually overlooked and tossed aside on, seemingly, the grounds that they are inconvenient to the outcome that you wish the see realized.

If you feel that this observation is unjustified I suggest that you, after taking a long while to ponder it, come forward with a counter claim. Because those are the views being held by many as a result of the manner in which you have conducted yourself in this and other threads. After all, you were the one who originally spawned this conversation and set the original tone.

As a final note, I find the utilization of your Jien forum account to be a shady practice at best when employed in an ooc discussion. Doubly so when employed to launch personal attacks. Though to calm your concern the signature is well within alloted size parameters; I would suggest employing a measuring stick and private messages next time you wish to alert someone of a similar transgression.

[DeathsOverture]

I proposed the changes as a way to move development a step back so we could roleplay the changes instead of them just being implemented automatically.

I'd like to hear more feedback on those ideas and less discussion about the Jien account. Those belong in another thread, not this one.

For 4.85:

1. Delete the lanes from the Okinawa Gate to Planet Honshu, replace with buoys to Aomori. Players can roleplay trying to add the lanes in, rather than it just happening.
   
2. Add a borderstation or a battleship on the Honshu side of the gate.
   
3. Don't forget all the other changes Dab planned.
   

EDIT: Condensed my quote

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[Jien Kogen]

Dusty, the Jien Kogen account gets used in discussions about Kusari, and as my other Kusari character is in the process of retirering, you wont be hearing much about Kusari from my other account. But since you need to play that game, and I havent kept it a secret, thank you Dusty, I will be forced to state the obvious... Emperor Kogen is Zelot. Thanks Dusty for ruining yet one more thing here in Disco for me.

[DeathsOverture]

Emperor Kogen is Zelot.

That is exactly what I was trying to prevent from happening in this thread.

Any more discussion about this, and a moderator needs to lock.

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[Benjamin]

Well it seems like this has got a bit heated and personal, so I am forced to take action.

As a player with no Kusari characters and almost no knowledge of Kusari at all ("What's this system? 'Cute Shoes'?!") it is my duty to take over as an impartial and disinterested chairman.

I vote we swap Okinawa and Manchester around. This will bring more life to both systems.

Failing that, Deaths Overture's ideas sound pretty good.




(On a serious note, with my Non-Kusari Vision (mutant power) it basically seems like the problem has come from that fact that while this is essentially a 'Sigma' system, it's got a Kusari name and is in the middle of Kusari systems. That really seems to be the only problems anyone has.)

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[Jien Kogen]

(On a serious note, with my Non-Kusari Vision (mutant power) it basically seems like the problem has come from that fact that while this is essentially a 'Sigma' system, it's got a Kusari name and is in the middle of Kusari systems. That really seems to be the only problems anyone has.)

Thats a pretty accurate summation.

[DeathsOverture]

I think someone said that it was because the GMG are still loyal to our Kusari roots. As much as I don't want to see it renamed to Sigma-#, if it'll clear things up then we should.

EDIT: That was Blodo, a dev and Guild Master of GMG

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