Okinawa Event #2: Isehara Terraforming Platform I Sat 9 15:00 GMT

[Zelot]

I would like to say to all those people who say "If you had the numbers you would have done it too" and tell you you are dead wrong. I have been involved in a great number of events on this server where the numbers were lopsided. What generally happens is the side with more drops some pilots. The GMG could have dropped half it's numbers and still had a two to one numerical advantage, but instead you thought you "needed" to go in with a four to one advantage. Dont act as though nothing could have been done from the GMG side to even out the numbers.

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[ProwlerPC]

http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36446

The agreement was pretty clear. There was plenty of time to make the objections and yet the event specifics were very clear. So clear in fact that they were agreed upon by both sides with both sides showing a willingness to accept the consequences. This was done with enthusiasm but the agreement was done so that later, if there is a loser, such a topic wouldn't be in debate. The system developer told me that there was event opportunities with this system involving it's development. I enjoyed the idea of having it at stake and so I started that discussion above to see if the appropriate opposing side wanted the chance to mess things up and the opposing side did. All of this doesn't necessarily have to happen either and the developer can go back to what he was doing too. That option has always been available.

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[Hawkwings]

The Hogosha could show some RP finesse, instead of 'see the enemy, kill the enemy'.

From what I've heard, that would apply doubly to the 6 Sentai that showed up after the fight had started and simply attacked.

Was any attempt made to gather other Corsair forces from Gamma?

Wold you have tolerated such a delay? What if they didn't want to come?

Why didnt you make a counter offer to the Freelancers to join your side? That would have been an extra two ships right there.

Perhaps the fight was balanced at that point? Before the "ambush" showed up?

Why didnt you scout the area and make a diversion? You would have seen the Zoner ship and attacked it.

Oh please, like you actually would have diverted for a diversion?

If the Black Dragons dont like the time scheduled for the event, then suggest another time.
The Hogosha already forced the postponement of the event from last week.
And again, where were the rest of the Hogosha. This event has been two weeks in the making - hardly any of your faction even bother to post attendance - let alone show up! No offer of an alternate time was put forward by the Hogosha. Is this going to be a trend of non-participation?

Then perhaps this event should be put on indefinite hold, due to one faction not having enough active members to regularly participate? You can continue your Okinawa development through forum RP, which does not depends on timezones and is much more flecible.

@Ortog: I sympathize with you and trying to RP on a PVP server. But the conduct of another server has nothing to do with the conduct of this server. And "Take your licks and be happy about it!" is not a constructive attitude when dealing with a problem.

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[Friday]

You know what? If anyone had asked me, I would have stood down. I could have swapped to my trade ship who was right there parked at Isehara.

Unfortunately there was no opportunity to do that, no role play from our enemies apart from a few perfunctory lines of engagement. So where then does the RP failure start?

We even wanted to let Grimly go, to send a message back to Gamma - the Dragons though seemed to have a grudge to settle. Go and complain to them if you dont like it.

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[Semeagol]

I think that the real problem here is that the GMG is getting more influence and more RP power that some houses would like to. They did what they had to do in this event, they showed up, they rallyed forces to figth in their side. If the attackers didn't made the same arrangments it's their problem.

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"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"

[Friday]

From what I've heard, that would apply doubly to the 6 Sentai that showed up after the fight had started and simply attacked.

Wold you have tolerated such a delay? What if they didn't want to come?

Pure speculation. Delays we can handle. We saw another group of Corsairs with a member 'Emperor's Hand' in it - naturally we expected them to show up as well. They didnt.

Perhaps the fight was balanced at that point? Before the "ambush" showed up?

Irrelevant, the point is no-one even BOTHERED to try and RP this tactic. See the enemy, kill the enemy.

Oh please, like you actually would have diverted for a diversion?

Yes, we do actually roleplay - ask our allies, ask our enemies.

Then perhaps this event should be put on indefinite hold, due to one faction not having enough active members to regularly participate? You can continue your Okinawa development through forum RP, which does not depends on timezones and is much more flecible.

A faction with not enough active members is a more serious problem than simply not showing up for events...
I will throw you a bone and agree that Forum RP is a valuable component to the playing out of Okinawa Development. That being said, simply writing stories about how 'I singlehandedly blew up Isehara LULZ!' may not be effective all on its own.

@Ortog: I sympathize with you and trying to RP on a PVP server. But the conduct of another server has nothing to do with the conduct of this server. And "Take your licks and be happy about it!" is not a constructive attitude when dealing with a problem.

Nor is not participating in the event, and then complaining about it afterwards even though you havent been involved in any significant way.

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[Ortog]

Alright, final consideration from me: numbers are meaningless, people are all that matters.

[Semeagol]

Alright, final consideration from me: numbers are meaningless, people are all that matters.

I have to agree with you, sir. And what that people can do with their ship (their fighting skills and RP) it's also what matters.
I couldn't agree mor with you.:yes::yes:

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"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"

[Friday]

I think that the real problem here is that the GMG is getting more influence and more RP power that some houses would like to. They did what they had to do in this event, they showed up, they rallyed forces to figth in their side. If the attackers didn't made the same arrangments it's their problem.

In RP terms, the Guild is going from strength to strength since the end of the 80 years war, and the contract with Kishiro. That being said the Guild faces many challenges, Okinawa being the latest!

In game terms, the GMG had it easier in 4.84. back then the New Berlin-Sigma-13 jump hole was one of the premiere trade runs, with all the piracy going with it.

Our RP was concentrated more in the Sigmas, and our enemies invariably came to us. The RP (or lack thereof sometimes) also came to us.

Now things are different. The Sigmas are quieter, so now we have to go out there and make our RP. We have to travel more and explore new relationships. This has brought us into greater conflict with the Hogosha, and by extension the more conservative elements of Kusari.

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[Zelot]

Wait, Sentai got involved on the GMG side? I think if the Hogosha have evidence of the GMG working alongside the Blood Dragons, it should be forwarded to the Emperor, as I am sure Kusari will be asking very real questions about the GMG's relations with the Dragons.

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