' Wrote:Cardamine changes your DNA. It screws you over royally, cuts your means of making babys but makes you live longer and better. There is -no- way against it. Ever. Hell, the whole OC organ thing is royally screwed as well if you ask me. Different sets of DNA between the OC and the 'sairs, body should reject it completely.
'Here! Have an Outcast liver!'
'kthx Brother corsair!'
'Oh wow now I'm like superman!'
Hah. Hahaha. No. Just, no.
'Here! Have an Outcast liver!'
'kthx Brother corsair!'
'Oshi-! I'm dying of auto immune! Ahnoz!'
The organism rejects same dnr organs as well. The rejection can be stopped by diffrent metter medical tools. Until the organ is functioning - its good.
unless they function is all diffrent way, and Outcasts breaths in metan instead of oxygen or something.
Anyhow until that rp isn't changed. Etna is Outcast piltos slaughterhouse. (as well as others who are being captured) And later their body parts are sold for money.
The sort of medication needed to force the body to accept the organs would completely shut down the immune system, leaving the guy dead of the slightest infection in a matter of days, if not hours.
Zealot Wrote:Just go play the game and have fun dammit.
Treewyrm Wrote:all in all the conclusion is that disco doesn't need antagonist factions, it doesn't need phantoms, it doesn't need nomads, it doesn't need coalition and it doesn't need many other things, no AIs, the game is hijacked by morons to confuse the game with their dickwaving generic competition games mixed up with troll-of-the-day.
The sort of medication needed to force the body to accept the organs would completely shut down the immune system, leaving the guy dead of the slightest infection in a matter of days, if not hours.
And you think that people after 1150 years will use exact the same technology? and medicine wont make a step forward? .. quite a pesimistic you are.
Dude, we have tychoon cannons. TYCHOON ! I think you know what Tychoon is. So physics will make step farward but medicine not?
[1:43:04 PM] David says: the way vanilla set it up was that Cardi DNA got interwoven into Human DNA
[1:43:20 PM] David says: not just 'affects the brain'
It's not logical for Corsair bodies to accept Outcast organs, and even if they did, the organs would not be able to survive without cardi anyway.
Who said the Corsair scientists knew anything anyway?;)
Thank you for helping spread cardi-addicted organs around Sirius, even onto Crete, causing dependency throughout markets Outcasts couldn't normally get their grubby paws on.
Even if it adds something to DNA it doesn't mean that whole body works diffrently.
Alright I think for solving this question we all gonna need to go learn genetics and medicine.
I doubt we have enought time for that.
The thing is im trying to state, is not that im right. I dont know. But that all do not know how exactly Cardi works. And we won't know. Unless you rp somehow, or cryer will make in rp discovery which will eventually lead to outcast house total anihilation.. (will happen sooner or later (rofl) )
' Wrote:And you think that people after 1150 years will use exact the same technology? and medicine wont make a step forward? .. quite a pesimistic you are.
Dude, we have tychoon cannons. TYCHOON ! I think you know what Tychoon is. So physics will make step farward but medicine not?
In capital letters and everything? *dons grammar-hat, adopts cowboy voice* Don't mind if I do...
tycoon [taɪˈkuːn]
n
1. (Business / Commerce) a business man of great wealth and power
2. (Historical Terms) an archaic name for a shogun
[from Japanese taikun, from Chinese ta great + ch?n ruler]
tachyon [ˈt?kɪˌɒn]
n
(Physics / Nuclear Physics) Physics a hypothetical elementary particle capable of travelling faster than the velocity of light
[from tachy- + -on]
I'd like to point out that if Cryer can't figure out a way to reverse cardamine addiction or make cardamine-affected organs work, then the Corsairs certainly can't. Not like Cryer is getting paid off by the Outcasts or anything (about as far from it as it gets- the Outcasts are probably more worried about Cryer than they are about the Corsairs). Yes, medical technology has advanced, but notice that lifespans on Leeds are in the fifties (hooray for vanilla news!). And cardamine isn't your run of the mill superdrug, either... it was made by the Daam K'Vosh for the express purpose of turning the Nomads into super-intelligent juggernauts. If they ever swoop down on Malta, god help us all. (Note to self; create fanatical Outcast, adopt sixth scheme to doom humanity.)
EDIT: For the record, we do have a lot of info on how cardi works. Vanilla infocards and developer documents (like the one explaining the origin of cardamine) make it pretty clear. Actually, I think I remember some infocard talking about some of Cryer's failed experiments... which included organ transplants. Might've been random musing with Praetyre, though.
' Wrote:And you think that people after 1150 years will use exact the same technology? and medicine wont make a step forward? .. quite a pesimistic you are.
Dude, we have tychoon cannons. TYCHOON ! I think you know what Tychoon is. So physics will make step farward but medicine not?
It's "tachyon".
Yes, I'm pessimistic.
Zealot Wrote:Just go play the game and have fun dammit.
Treewyrm Wrote:all in all the conclusion is that disco doesn't need antagonist factions, it doesn't need phantoms, it doesn't need nomads, it doesn't need coalition and it doesn't need many other things, no AIs, the game is hijacked by morons to confuse the game with their dickwaving generic competition games mixed up with troll-of-the-day.
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' Wrote:Once again, you're wrong.
The sort of medication needed to force the body to accept the organs would completely shut down the immune system, leaving the guy dead of the slightest infection in a matter of days, if not hours.
Err... Actually, biology student has a little bit to say on that. Ever heard of monoclonal antibodies? Basically, a free antibody is a protein produced by B Cells, which are then free to roam around the body. Basically, antibodies will only bind with one type of receptor (usually antigens), meaning they'll 'home in' on the antigen/receptor they're being used against.
A taliored enzyme is fused to the antibody, and you have magic bullets. This is a very real thing, and is currently being used to treat types of breast cancer (the antigens on one type of cancerous cell is worked out. Corresponding antibodies are then grown in mice and extracted - which kills the mouse. Cancer killing toxins are then fused with the antibodies, which seek out the cancerous cells. When they bind with the cancerous cells, the toxins are released, meaning only the cancer and surrounding cells are destroyed).
At the moment monoclonal antibodies are being looked into as immune inhibitors. This means doctors will be able to shut down localised areas of the immune system to increase the chance of a transplanted organ being accepted. I'd presume by Freelancer time, this would have been perfected.
That doesn't change the fact that Outcast organs should be genetically incompatible though. Besides the whole thing of blood groups and whatnot, DNA is included in -everything- not just the blood. Organs are made of tissues, and tissues are made of cells. Cells contain a nucleus, which in turn contains the famous double helix of DNA.
EDIT: @Where did it ran: I'm doing a Human Biology A Level course. Not sure if that counts, but this is rough kind of stuff I'm covering. Genetics and DNA that is, not crazy mutant space-junkies and their organs.
EDIT: Man, I love doing this to threads. I remember my last biology rant had the 'O_o' effect in that Nomad discussion too.:P
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' Wrote:I like it how you Corsairs just jam your index fingers into your ears and yell "LALALALALALA" as the facts are presented to you.
Put this RP to rest, it conflicts with the Outcasts and it conflicts with the Keepers... Either that or I'll raise the meta-gaming flag.
Hey, hey, HEY! They have no choice in this! How would you like it if the devs rewrote the Outcast infocards to state that they were decommissioning their fleets and swapping systems with the Nomads? "Sure, they can have Alpha, we'll just take their backwater pit in exchange" type thing?
They don't have any choice, it was written in. When something is written in, you roll with it. Doesn't mean it's right, or even makes sense, but for now you roll with it. Complain at the devs, not the Corsairs.