' Wrote:Until this is not clearly worked out, you are treated as foreign forces (unfriendly) and asked to leave Rheinland. Order vessels are foreign and definetly NOT civilian. We do not want to risk a possible Nomad infection in Rheinland.
We also do not want to risk a nomad infection in rheinland, this is what we want to prevent with every beat of our hearts. But ok, till we work it out i can live with the fact you are treating us as unfriendly. May i ask how much you have to say in the military? This question is not meant to piss you of, i respect your opinon. But we also would like to know if you can speak just for you or the hole faction. The other players which seem to be in the military too didnt have that much concerns about us as far as i can read. Its mostly about the capital ships, but we will find a solution.
I would like to state that I gave the order for you to be treated as unfriendly, and right now that statues can easily slip into fully hostile at this point thanks to your early behavior.
Be warned that you are treading on fairly thin ice right now.
Back to your story, you say the Nomads attacked Munich during the Nomad wars, this makes no sense as the Nomads never openly attacked any of the houses, instead they infiltrated the Houses (Rheinland primarily) and made them attack each other instead, as a result I see no point in time where these events could really fit into the over all time line.
Also, you said you contacted the Order? Need I point out that durring the Nomad war all of the civilian population was convinced that the Order was nothing more then a terrorist group, and the Order strikes me as an organization that contacts you instead of the other way around.
' Wrote:<snip>...this makes no sense as the Nomads never openly attacked any of the houses.<snip>
Actually, I remember that, towards the end of the SP campaign, when everything was coming to a head, one of the characters mentioned that Nomads were now openly moving through house space.
No, this was right at the end, just when the Nomads were prepared to close their strategy, and call it a checkmate. Trent countered their final move at the last second, but I seem to remember that it was the Nomads themselves, glowing blue jellyships and all, moving openly through the houses.
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Ah. My bad. I really wish they'd continued the story line... The ending really makes it obvious the release was rushed, because there was supposed to be a part 2. I think where it finished was only half-way through what DA originally planned. A shame.
First of all, hello again and thank you all for your comments.
' Wrote:I would like to state that I gave the order for you to be treated as unfriendly, and right now that statues can easily slip into fully hostile at this point thanks to your early behavior.
Be warned that you are treading on fairly thin ice right now.
I must admit that my english is not the best, but i always get the impression that your faction is impending in our direction. The basic idea was to set up something on a lawful base. I will discuss some ideas i had with my comrades in the next days and we will see what they say to it. Maybe we have to change the basic idea of working with the military because of the bad start and the fact that you are unwilling to coorperate with us in any form. As mentioned some way back in the posts the bundschuh might be a good idea.
' Wrote:Back to your story, you say the Nomads attacked Munich during the Nomad wars, this makes no sense as the Nomads never openly attacked any of the houses, instead they infiltrated the Houses (Rheinland primarily) and made them attack each other instead, as a result I see no point in time where these events could really fit into the over all time line.
Also, you said you contacted the Order? Need I point out that durring the Nomad war all of the civilian population was convinced that the Order was nothing more then a terrorist group, and the Order strikes me as an organization that contacts you instead of the other way around.
@story:
Hm, well i dont know how strict you are with the story itself. For my part i can say that it doesnt affect the main story very much. So i think it is something that might have happend. But as said i dont know how strict you are limiting the imagination in this case. @order:
Hm well you got a good point there i must admit. There will be several changes in the background in the next time i guess. Depending on what my comrades have to say in our meeting. I am at a point where i must say that it probably would be better to leave the hole order out of the playground because it just seems to cause troubles.
Some points we will discuss:
-Caps (a other carrier? a liner? else? none?)
-Story (might delete the order? form a order like faction on our own with bundschuhs as an ally?)
-Relationships (What to do about the rheinland lawfulls? friendly, neutral, unfriedly, hostile?)
-Inquisition (What id, iff and ships would fit if the order would be disappear from the story?)
I made an Inquisitor and put him in the Council. The Gallics would be more likely to do something as crude as the persecution of people for their beliefs.
Hope it works out the way you have it.
"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THESCIENCEIS LEAKING OUT!"
As far as i can read it,
there will be no peachful...ehh peaceful future for the -][- and the [RM].
But! :nono:
This could be very interesting, too.
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What about this idea:
The -][- is not a "religion" [as we called it] but a sect like it was mentiored by Ventana.
Our primary home system is Munich, which is heavily attacked by the [RM].
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This would bring us all three advantages:
1. Munich will be filled with "life".
At the moment it is a "dead System"; no one is there...and nobody wanna get there... and this sux, doesnt it?
2. The [RM] has a new interesting enemy to deal with.
A enemy who brings up new exotic ships to Rheinland (Order ships). This should be a good base for some nice PvP.
3. The Inquisiton is banned from Rheinland (exception Munich) and so u could avoid contact if u want to do so.
Guten Tag, die Damen&Herren.
ArChanum,
Captain of the Folterqual
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[EDIT1:] [Offtopic] Shagohad where is that nice Sororitadansen from? :]
[EDIT2:]
Some restrictions in our equipment would fit good; e.g.:
*<strike>Only Level 9 Weapons or less;</strike> Redundand, see below
*Only Plasma Weapons are allowed, due the Inquisiton prefers to burn the aliens to stardust... [and the Rheinland Molceular Shield is most effectiv against these...]
*Armour Upgrade 2.0 = max
*The best shield we could use is:
Best-Ship-Shield minus one Lvl (That means: No "Geb" with Battleship shields and so on...)
This would show, that the -][- does not possess that good equimpent like regular Order ships,
and... it shows that we are not nasty powergamer;)
I wouldn't call it a dilemma. Please note that even the capital ship restriction is ONLY within the bounds of RP. Sure, you are free to come to Rheinland with any capital ship, but you will either be asked to move out asap and destroyed if you refuse to do so, or reported in extreme cases, like Gallic battleships. Luckily we did not have such hard cases. Yours was short before a report, I must add.
' Wrote:The -][- is not a "religion" [as we called it] but a sect like it was mentiored by Ventana.
Now this is going into the right direction. Let this be said: Rheinland is some kind of totalitarian police state, but the people are happy with it for the biggest part. Why? We have the religion 'Church of the Green Eagle' (Kirche des gruenen Adlers), which worships the Kanzler and serves as some state religion.
I doubt that the gouvernment would officially allow a competing religion, so you can guess yourself enemies of Rheinland, when it comes to that point. That's why we offered you to get closer to the Bundschuh: they aren't religious zealots AND enemies of the gouvernment and the Nomads. So you would be advised best, if you ally with them. This will hopefully boost the VFs reputation a bit, they are kinda inactive.
' Wrote:Our primary home system is Munich, which is heavily attacked by the [RM].
Munich maybe, but if so, then some remote and covert position in some nebula. I doubt that you will manage to get your official headquarters on planet Nuremberg, because it's controlled by the RFP and the military... not to mention the Regensburg battleship, which guards near the gate to the core systems.
' Wrote:1. Munich will be filled with "life".
At the moment it is a "dead System"; no one is there...and nobody wanna get there... and this sux, doesnt it?
Well, Munich is a peaceful system. I wouldn't call it dead. Republican, Daumann, ALG and OSC have some good traderoutes there and we have the exit to the border worlds in the Alps Cloud. Nothing wrong with it.
' Wrote:2. The [RM] has a new interesting enemy to deal with.
A enemy who brings up new exotic ships to Rheinland (Order ships). This should be a good base for some nice PvP.
Well, let me list the enemies of the [RM]: Red Hessians, Bundschuh, Unioners, Pirates, Corsairs, Wilde, Liberty forces, Outcasts. Forget one? Nevermind... I do not think we need another enemy. Better some forces, which stay covert and support us in every way they can, but are officially enemies. Maybe the Vigilante ID would suit your needs also, as it should allow you everything you want to do so far. (Except the Cap ship thingy.)
' Wrote:3. The Inquisiton is banned from Rheinland (exception Munich) and so u could avoid contact if u want to do so.
Why don't you see Munich as a part of Rheinland? There is a battleship from the military forces and a police controlled planet. It IS a Rheinland system. And our patrols include this system.