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Offline Cyberanson
08-19-2009, 07:42 AM,
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What the heck... if this is going on like that, I will leave Disco, honestly. There is no justification to protect some greedy trade faction from the QCP, who are some sort of 'legal' pirates.

All this stuff is happening IN RP and you start to carry out warnings ooRP. Why don't you react in an appropriate way.

This gets a big, fat minus from me.

(And it hardens my impressions of the Zoners to be some pendant to some real life group, who are under a higher protection also.)

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Offline DAnvilFan
08-19-2009, 07:47 AM,
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Alright, this is an outdated issue and we are now looking forward to resolving the situation rather than complaining about the past.
Offline jimmy Patterson
08-19-2009, 07:51 AM,
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im not even involved in this but its these bogus ruleings that kil lthis game whats next the LN cant shoot zoner BATTLESHIPS in penn because of there freeports yet there in LIBNERTY SPACE and PLAYERMADE LAW SAYS NO BATTLESHIPS IN LIBERTY UNLESS GRANTED BY [LN] COMMAND

why dont we just turn off playerkilling then if ythbe admins are gonna intervine whenever somebody crys about getting a blue message and a respwan screen

zoners yoi get a big

F+ for this "incedent" in my bookand ive lkost all my respect for you

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Offline Stoat
08-19-2009, 12:02 PM,
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Well, seeing as I've only just found this, and now read it, I have to say that I am extremely saddened. From my point of view, while the QCP have always run the knife-edge of acceptability in many peoples eyes, I am amazed that such a public, and one sided it has to be said, warning has been given.

I hope that this is not something we, as a community, are going to be seeing more of. From what I am able to see and gather, this has been a case of "He who shouts loudest", or maybe I should say "He who sulks loudest".

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Offline Cyberanson
08-19-2009, 12:07 PM,
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' Wrote:From what I am able to see and gather, this has been a case of "He who shouts loudest", or maybe I should say "He who sulks loudest".
That's how I see it, too. And it can't be that someone who acts perfectly within the given RP bounds is warned, because someone feels pissed by that. All you who complain about the QCP and all you Zoners who feel your 'neutrality' endangered: There is always a way to avoid the QCP. Stay out.

What will be the next step? Warning some other faction, because they dared to rob the Zoners? Warning some player, because he RPs insults to the Zoners? You know what: we have such a nice system in Germany and I am sick of that, too.

It sickens me to the end, really. Just... poor.

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Offline 11of10
08-19-2009, 12:24 PM,
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Not that I believe that it will change anything, or reverse the Admin's decision, but I feel I need to cast my vote against this. I trully feel that this is one wasted opportunity for some quite inovative role-play for Zoners defending their borderline neutrality.

So, bottom line:

QCP You have my vote to keep hunting Zoners, Zoners you have a big minus in my eyes, as this could have been grand, and Admins, you shouldn't have intervented I believe.

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Offline jammi
08-19-2009, 01:03 PM,
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' Wrote:(at one point THREE individual) bounties, raiding us yourselves, and generally grumping over who was in our house when.
There was at most two bounties at any one time. The first bounty went up, resulting in a Zoner whine-fest of epic proportions leading to it being withdrawn. Then Zeltak put his up, and the whining recommenced, resulting in that being shut down. Then there was a period with no bounties at all, until Gezza decided that was weak and put his up. That got stepped on by the Admins.
' Wrote:First of all, Bluntpencil. That was not the entire zoner fleet. If you would like to see the entire zoner fleet, please come to canaria again and ill bring our other 15 juggernauts, 30 cruisers... ect... Please, dont exaggerate...

*ahem*

However, Why the hell would the QCP be attacking a NUETRAL faction for something that has been going on for a long time (Zoners harboring corsairs) when their homeland is under DIRECT threat from a major power? This makes no sense. I do not care if your related to BAF or not, The Kusarians are still threatening your refueling points...
This is like your post on America in the other thread all over again. Just... No.

I'm siding with Ventana, Stoat and various others. This warning has my thumbs down.

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Offline Laowai
08-19-2009, 01:25 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-19-2009, 01:26 PM by Laowai.)
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OK then....

Let me put it this way.

As an Admin that came into this fiasco late - i now have my own views on this - which I will not repeat here as there is the word "Admin" under my name, and this is still an ongoing discussion among the admin team...

But what I will tell you all is this - When we start getting Pm after Pm, sanction report after sanction report because players don't have the the ability to compromise, the maturity, creativity or ability to settle their differences within RP, and without restorting to involving us in the dispute then too right we are going to intervene. We should'nt be called in to act like parents - but too often we are.

So - when that intervention happens - here's the newsflash - you brought it on yourselves - and yes, when we intervene, some of you, many of you, whatever, might not like it - but if its come down to the Admins to settle your disputes then at some point, settle them we will and you will all have to deal with it, whether you like it or not.

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Offline Athenian
08-19-2009, 01:32 PM,
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Unfortunately it seems that it takes only one side to fail to role-play a response before the hammer comes down. I can't see why one side should get the rough treatment because of a lack of reciprocal role-play.

If people think that sending PM's can influence the game, then why bother with rules?

If someone breaks rules and gets reported for it, then they should get punished or not, depending on whether or not they broke the rules.

If no one is breaking any rules, then why do they merit a warning?

If people can't role-play, then why bother playing on a role-play server?

I don't agree entirely with the "you brought it on yourselves" argument. Many changes to the game are imposed upon people. A few threads on the forum has been enough to radically alter the gameplay in previous cases without any consideration for the people who would be most affected by it.




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Offline Andrew_Bonesovich
08-19-2009, 01:40 PM,
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' Wrote:OK then....

Let me put it this way.

As an Admin that came into this fiasco late - i now have my own views on this - which I will not repeat here as there is the word "Admin" under my name, and this is still an ongoing discussion among the admin team...

But what I will tell you all is this - When we start getting Pm after Pm, sanction report after sanction report because players don't have the the ability to compromise, the maturity, creativity or ability to settle their differences within RP, and without restorting to involving us in the dispute then too right we are going to intervene. We should'nt be called in to act like parents - but too often we are.

Can you tell me, how many of these PMs and reports were from QCP players? I personally dont know about ANY QCP whining about anything, we were just defending ourselves against the Zoner whinefest and continued RPing what we began to RP.


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Only side which was warned was the QCP. How we did brought it on ourselves? Why the Zoners didnt receive same warning? To me it looks like the Zoners brought it on us by their constant complaining, just because their lovely Juggernaut was shot. Just because someone has shown them they are not untouchable.

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