Admin Notice : Faction Warned

[Zelot]

They bought entry from the Zoners to open a second front, to attack the Gold supplies of Bretonia, which are controlled by BMM, Mollys and IMG, not just Mollys. BMM have the only true mining station in Dublin, actually. The other stations are an asteroid base and a derelict battleship.

Please, read the infocards.

The deal between the Corsairs and the Zoners is a secret, it you read the infocard you will see that, but that just brings us back to the point of what roll the infocards have in our rp. Is the infocard for the planet known to everyone who lands there? Or is it oorp information given to "players" to help them understand the area they are in? Would the Bretonians know about a secret deal that was made long ago, Zoners giving maps to Corsairs? I dont have a good answer for that, but I think it would be very quiet, much like the BAF's support of the Privateers, oh, but I forgot, the Privateers were exiled, and it's oorp to hold the Privateers actions against the BAF right?

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[FooFighter]

If Zoners are, like you all keep repeating, not a unified faction, how then can they afford the countless Juggernauts and Whales annoying the heck out of everybody else?

If you want Zoners to be treated as what they should be you need to change what they are now.

[bluntpencil2001]

The deal between the Corsairs and the Zoners is a secret, it you read the infocard you will see that, but that just brings us back to the point of what roll the infocards have in our rp. Is the infocard for the planet known to everyone who lands there? Or is it oorp information given to "players" to help them understand the area they are in? Would the Bretonians know about a secret deal that was made long ago, Zoners giving maps to Corsairs? I dont have a good answer for that, but I think it would be very quiet, much like the BAF's support of the Privateers, oh, but I forgot, the Privateers were exiled, and it's oorp to hold the Privateers actions against the BAF right?

There are Bretonians on Gran Canaria. That is a fact too.

I would hazard a guess that they'd let us know. The fact that tensions are rising due to Bretonian scouts being present would imply that they had a fair idea what was going on.

And I never claimed that it was oorp to hold QCP actions against Bretonia. It just won't help in a court of law.

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[schlurbi]

I think Zoners are overestimating their Neutrality anyway. It makes the Neutral ID you can get by an Admin pretty useless.

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"Who is it doing this synthetic type of alpha beta psychedelic funkin'?"

[Magoo!]

I'd very much like to call into consideration the definition of 'Privateer'. In effect,

A privateer was a private warship authorized by a country's government by letters of marque to attack foreign shipping.

The way I see it, its not any of your concern. Rebel group or not. If they wanted to go pwn t3h enemies under the radar, then I propose re-evaluating the name, because quite frankly the situation seems akin to The Cobblers Guild trying to outdo the Violinist League in hand-crafted production of instruments. Two very different professions, which should either be carried out by a Renaissance Man or one side alone.

I suggest the name, "Her Majesty's Super Rebel Death Squad of Disaffiliates : Pew-Pewing the natives who sell bananas to the Spaniards"

The NFZ doesn't provide any practical use... This whole thing was brought to you by the Zoners, because of their sheer incapability to respond within RP and that they felt complaining to admins would be a lot easier than getting their acts in shape... If Zoners continue letting Corsairs abuse their bases, they simply can't be considered as neutral.

Kay. We'll start orbitally bombarding the nearest planet claiming that it does no harm. Its a RP mechanism. And good lord, if you think two weeks of getting, "Lul nub, y u cry?" Is easier than heated debates with arrogant RP snobs, then you are sorely mistaken. That's a rubbish assessment of the situation, Kress.

I think this decision is highly unjust (and no, I'm no privateer nor anyhow affiliated with them). Privateers are supposed to disrupt the economy of an enemy, not to fight their military - so targeting Zoners (instead of KNF or Corsairs), which are the powertraders of Disco, supplying each and everyone, is completely legit, as long as you don't expect to dock on Freeports afterwards.

Nath, here's the thing. They did it because we h4b0r the TRR0rZ. If they had stated, "Hey! We've seen you prancing about Kusari, group X! Steel yourself!" We wouldn't have cared nearly so much.

... Which, reading on as I post, you have inspired Blunt to wittily change his MO. Awesome. Well, that point seems moot, but we all remember the ridiculously unproductive (due to one party's inability to reason) thread of mine which, thank Jassy, has sunk and died.

If Zoners are, like you all keep repeating, not a unified faction, how then can they afford the countless Juggernauts and Whales annoying the heck out of everybody else?

If you want Zoners to be treated as what they should be you need to change what they are now.

If you prejudice and focus on only one group, as you seem to be doing, why do half a dozen admirals get born and flash-grown in Liberty every week? OHO! Fantastic. Moving on.

Guess not. Read through.

Adieu.

[Zeltak]

I think Zoners are overestimating their Neutrality anyway. It makes the Neutral ID you can get by an Admin pretty useless.

Exactly. First of all, since the time of "Vanilla Freelancer" where Zoners were practically neutral to all factions, alot of things have changed.

Few conflicts of interest that have provoked certain factions to go unfriendly or hostile to the Zoners.

1) LWB and the Synth Foods conflict regarding Zoner Freeport Biodomes.

2) Zoners supplying the Corsairs with vital resources to keep them going and thus ultimately aid them in the front-line of Omega-5 against the Hessians.

3) Outcasts feeling left-out because the Corsairs are receiving far too many privileges from the Zoners.

4) Mollys seeking revenge on the Corsairs from the horrifying Planet Cork incident, might decide to attack Planet Gran Canaria because a large number of Corsair refuges live there.

5) Any faction that is not dependent on the Zoners in order to survive and suspects the Zoners to make deals with their enemies thus marking them as at least unfriendly.

Vanilla Freelancer where Zoners rep sheet said "Enemies: None" does not mean things haven't changed til' now. Didn't Dieter said that infocards and such are not the primary Role-Play source but the actions of the PLAYERS. Hmm?

[Magoo!]

... I guess I should have expected people to ignore logic and instead continue with quoting somebody they agree with to continue the verbal ganking... -.-' Anyways... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and read more than just the first sentence.

1) A lot of us don't ship paste for the purpose of angry pitchforks flanking both exits from the Omicrons while a locked gate guards the other. But perhaps I misunderstand.

2) Cool. The Hessians can come too. Send caravans full of local pygmies to pick up supplies. We'll have a ball. Just beware of the Freeport locals who will be watching the market from an elevated position with very large guns.

3) Well... They really don't have any bases near us. I suppose the Hackers could be their errand boys and send some stuff up from Magellan? Love, the Zoners?

4) Excellent! Viable. If they choose to do so, we'll vaporize them accordingly and then continue on our way. Zoner diplomacy is on an individual basis, be that regarding personages or groups. If X dislikes Y, who eats our bread and X comes to kill Y, Z (us) will assist Y because to not do so would be bad business sense. No lawyer is going to stand up in a court room and say, "Ah, forget it. I've got a family to think about. What would they think if I defended this creep? He's clearly guilty. Proceed. *walk out*"

5) I guess. Refer to item Four. As I see it, we deal with things on an individual basis - if somebody wants to come pl0x us, they can. Speaking strictly in a literal sense of course. Some *cough* HEADS UP *cough* would be nice from time to time though.

That's the way I see it at least. This then goes back to Zoners being a scatter-brained group of individuals who just want to get away from House life. Funny how things come full circle, isn't it? Turned out to be less gank supporting than the eager agreement made it seem. Hooray.

[bluntpencil2001]

Okay then...

HEADS UP!

Bretonia, Mollys, LWB and Hessians dislike Zoners. Does that work now?

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[Drake]

3) Well... They really don't have any bases near us. I suppose the Hackers could be their errand boys and send some stuff up from Magellan? Love, the Zoners?

5) I guess. Refer to item Four. As I see it, we deal with things on an individual basis - if somebody wants to come pl0x us, they can. Speaking strictly in a literal sense of course. Some *cough* HEADS UP *cough* would be nice from time to time though.

Freeport 10 is directly between Malta and that one Outcast base in Tau-23.

And, well... The Zoners have had their 'heads up' now, with regards to the QCP. There's going to be diplomacy attempted, I believe BlueSpawn and I are working on getting a negotiation thread together (and please, everyone who isn't the chosen representative for each side, stay out). But if that falls through, it's back to Zoners hostile for the QCP.

[Magoo!]

Freeport 10 is directly between Malta and that one Outcast base in Tau-23.

And, well... The Zoners have had their 'heads up' now, with regards to the QCP. There's going to be diplomacy attempted, I believe BlueSpawn and I are working on getting a negotiation thread together (and please, everyone who isn't the chosen representative for each side, stay out). But if that falls through, it's back to Zoners hostile for the QCP.

Good point. I stand corrected. My trips to Tau-37 have been neglected of late.

Excellent! Then my previous logic regarding people saying, "y u no are-pea?" despite both sides wanting to RP, and the admin mandating a RP solution. Well, again, these are statistics talking and slowly sinking the world literacy rate.

Okay then...

HEADS UP!

Bretonia, Mollys, LWB and Hessians dislike Zoners. Does that work now?

And actually, to correct that, the LWB don't pay us any mind. At least, the like, twelve times I've passed through they only said something to the effect of, "Guten tag, mein herr! Ooshten, gott ist gutt, ja? No paste? Care to make a donation? Thanksa! Adieu." We've actually mostly sorted things out with both the AFA and LWB. So... Yeah, I like to think they neither like us nor dislike us.

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