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[pbrione]

I beleive that the QCP's proposal was, in fact, offically forwarded to the Council of Zoners by one of your own representatives and can currently be viewed in its entirety in your own thread here: http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?sh...671&st=1950

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Sir Stanley Nelson




<span style="color:#000066">Charles Canning </span><span style="color:#000066"> Foreign Secretary</span>

[Eppy]

And Outcasts aren't allowed in Bretonia.

WHAT?

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Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen

Which Dreadnought was that?

One of your nine.

[Drake]

If there'd be something to negotiate about I'd agree instantly. Post the QCP's proposal in "Diplomatic Matters" to bring the negotiations forward. By now we have only unofficial parleys many of the CoZ players cannot accept as RP. The QCP group has been asked by our intermediary to publish the proposal on the forums, and untill now nothing happened. Where's the RP post containing the proposal? Take care of that rather than coercing a whole group to react on literally nothing.

It was the CoZ's representative who requested we do the negotiations on Skype. The primary discussions have been done in-RP, and many other 'theoretical' proposal possibilities have been discussion OORP.

The QCP will not participate in free-for-all negotiations with dozens of people yelling at each other. We have supplied a single diplomatic representative, and have been having discussions with the CoZ representative. If you wish to post the proposals in the CoZ thread, then by all means do so (which you have), but the QCP will not participate. Decide your absolute parameters and let your representative negotiate, or don't waste our time. If you wish to move the one-on-one negotiations away from Skype and onto the forums, then I don't have a problem with that, as long as no one but the two representatives post in that thread.

[Doc Holliday]

I beleive that the QCP's proposal was, in fact, offically forwarded to the Council of Zoners by one of your own representatives and can currently be viewed in its entirety in your own thread here: http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?sh...671&st=1950

They also included in their initial proposal to negotiate on behalf of the Mollys, BMM, Bowex and the Bretonian government, all of whom can speak for themselves. Since they have been mentioned, don't you think they should be able to respond in some way? I do. That is why the QCP needs to make the proposal a separate post encrypted to all of the previously mentioned groups and the Zoners.

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[Drake]

They also included in their initial proposal to negotiate on behalf of the Mollys, BMM, Bowex and the Bretonian government, all of whom can speak for themselves. Since they have been mentioned, don't you think they should be able to respond in some way? I do. That is why the QCP needs to make the proposal a separate post encrypted to all of the previously mentioned groups and the Zoners.

We don't. QCP can choose to make demands on behalf of anyone we wish, with or without those people's consent or opinions. They may or may not be happy with the QCP for doing so, but we don't care that much.

No 'encypted comms' will be available to all CoZ members, nor all QCP members. Like I said, single representatives.

[Andrew_Bonesovich]

WHAT?

I think he meant they cant dock on Bretonian bases. Besides, they dont have much business in Bretonia. No one in Bretonia wants Cardamine or anything like that.

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A criminal always returns to the crime scene.

[pbrione]

QCP can make whatever demands they like and CoZ can ignore or reject them just as they like. If CoZ wants to speak to other factions that the QCP are making demands on behalf of, they are free to do so, if the QCP doesn't want to speak to other groups, they're free to refuse to do so as well. Seriously, stop looking for OORP reasons to stall the negotations and just get on with it inRP. This thread should not be used simply to vent OOC anger at one another.

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Sir Stanley Nelson




<span style="color:#000066">Charles Canning </span><span style="color:#000066"> Foreign Secretary</span>

[lousal]

If you wish to move the one-on-one negotiations away from Skype and onto the forums, then I don't have a problem with that, as long as no one but the two representatives post in that thread.

That's exaclty the intention, and we'll reduce the amount of our representatives to the Chairman himself. A "public channel" that deserves its name.

[Drake]

http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=45635

[Dab]

We don't. QCP can choose to make demands on behalf of anyone we wish, with or without those people's consent or opinions. They may or may not be happy with the QCP for doing so, but we don't care that much.

No 'encypted comms' will be available to all CoZ members, nor all QCP members. Like I said, single representatives.

You guys seem to have missed the point of the Council of Zoners. There is no 'single representative' that can make the decision on this case. The Council is a democracy. In a democracy, a formal message is sent to the entire body of government to be debated on until a consensus is reached. Then, once such a decision is made, the Council will direct a representative to offer the counter proposal, refusal, or agreement, as the case may be. QCP has a 'leadership' that can decide what they want and conduct diplomacy in a direct and quick manner.. They can have one person manage the entire process. The Council of Zoners cannot.

This seems more and more like QCP is doing whatever it can to make these negotiations fail. If you want the Council of Zoners to make ANY sort of decision on this, then you send a formal message to the Council. If you don't, then no decision can or will be made. Any blame would fall on QCP's shoulders as purposefully refusing to provide any sort of demands or offers to the Council of Zoners.

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