You know, I wasn't really going to post here and jump on the "Disco +1 threads of the week" multi-rant, but I feel that I must.
I've had run ins with at least six of the Phantoms, many of them multiple times, on my characters...and haven't been blown up one single time by any of them.
I haven't had to prostrate myself in front of them, begging for my life. I haven't turned tail and run casting CMs till I was empty, I haven't paid them off. What I HAVE done is to talk to them.
They're treated as back-room whispers; those little hairs on the back of your neck standing up. Your CHARACTER should know them like this...even though the PLAYER knows what the Phantoms are about. It's separation of character and player.
Pitchfork - cranky SOB, but won't kill you unless you're askin' for it
Ze'ev - mean old farmer, but got away from him even on my Bowex
Teinsha (or whatever SP) - must have caught her on a happy day, but I hope you find your sister.
And the others that I've run into (sorry, can't remember your names) have ALL been worthwhile encounters to my CHARACTERS' lives. As a player, i don't really hunt them down, but when encountered, have a chance for conversation.
If you show up in a fighter/bomber with a Navy tag and a chip on your shoulder, expect a less-than-friendly welcome befitting your aggressive stance (take note Phantoms, this applies to you too).
All this b*tching and whining about the Disco Issue of the Week by people that have been here a month and quite honestly have no real clue what's going on needs to stop.
Virus, you're not going to be able to keep up with this thread, because so many people now see this as a "I can get my two cents and +1 in now! hur hur, lets whinge about something." Feedback threads usually die down in a week or two, and then you get an occasional reply. See it through and it'll be fine.
To the rest of you all...bah, you're not worth it.
Ze'ev has a personal vendetta against the Junkers ? Sure , maybe I can RP my Junker to have a personall vendetta against Ze'ev too! Maybe I'll even chase you down to the Phantoms system! Oh wait , I cant , the patrolls would tear me apart before I could even type out a sentence. Life is unfair , right ? Hah hah hah...
My opinion remains, you rampaged into an armed fortress and legged it like it was noones business. If we had a BS guarding the JH you wouldnt do it , right ? Why the hell would you do it then , eh ?
You are one of the reasons I think that the Phantoms should be dissolved ( or changed). The whole concept seems more geared towards "More fun for me , less fun for you". Well , seeing as you and some others are so inclined to humiliate and slaughter people at least.
"I hate Junkers *pew pew pew*" is not RP, its an excuse to live out an OORP vendetta. There , ive said it.
If you take the time to RP with the, They do RP well with you aswell.
the only thing that sucks is the Recruitment process.
' Wrote:Once a Man who are Selling Ships see an Big Battleship he Ask the Commander from the Battleship that he want to sell this ship, but the Commander wouldnt he say I have an binding to this ship I dont sell this ship for All Money in Sirius so as the Commander and his Crew at Freeport 9 sleeping the Man and his Pirates the buy for much money going into the ship and stole the Battleship Next morning as the Commander and his Crew go to there ship it was not there...
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The greatest Roleplay ever of an Outcast Battleship being "Stolen"
' Wrote:Ze'ev has a personal vendetta against the Junkers ? Sure , maybe I can RP my Junker to have a personall vendetta against Ze'ev too! Maybe I'll even chase you down to the Phantoms system! Oh wait , I cant , the patrolls would tear me apart before I could even type out a sentence. Life is unfair , right ? Hah hah hah...
My opinion remains, you rampaged into an armed fortress and legged it like it was noones business. If we had a BS guarding the JH you wouldnt do it , right ? Why the hell would you do it then , eh ?
You are one of the reasons I think that the Phantoms should be dissolved ( or changed). The whole concept seems more geared towards "More fun for me , less fun for you". Well , seeing as you and some others are so inclined to humiliate and slaughter people at least.
"I hate Junkers *pew pew pew*" is not RP, its an excuse to live out an OORP vendetta. There , ive said it.
This is exactly why there have been suggestions that people like you should seperate characters from players. Does Zelot have a vendetta against Junkers? I thought he got on pretty well with Rudo and they solved their differences a while ago.
Quote:My opinion remains, you rampaged into an armed fortress and legged it like it was noones business. If we had a BS guarding the JH you wouldnt do it , right ? Why the hell would you do it then , eh ?
Because you didn't have a BS guarding the jump hole, did you?
In regards to the person talking about the Phantom shooting people in Alpha, that's probably me.
My character, Puzzle, dislikes Outcasts, and he takes every chance he can get to screw with them. He doesn't do it to the point that it'll cause a mass amount of trouble, but he does do it. I generally apologize afterwards in PMs however.
As for AJ, tell them thank you for me. ^^ Although I don't play much anymore. ;x
I have to say that, in all my encounters with Phantoms, I've never been killed.
Which actually surprised me, because I was one of those who was under the impression that you were a bunch of elite PvP whores... but then, I figured out that you guys love RP when I RPed back after my second encounater. I had a short but interesting encounter once, which left me scuttling away from Zelot with my life and my cargo. I RPed back, because that's the only thing Disco has for me and that's what I love doing - I can't PvP to save my life. And so, I RPed instead of running like an OoRP powetrader... and what do you know? - I survived.
On another note:
Your seemingly senseless killing actually isn't a bad idea. As much as people hate it, it's part of your RP to an extent.
You're supposed to be scary, ruthless, evil. You're supposed to have a reputation of terror that precedes you. And how else would you get this reputation than killing lots of people? Mon'star makes people shiver, and so do the Phantoms. People run. And why is this? Because people know they're probably going to get killed, they know you're violent. And if you stop killing people... where does your reputation go?
So, if I ever did get killed by a Phantom, I wouldn't really mind it.
Unless I had a transport full of nuclear devices. (Haha.)
But I actually look forward to meeting Phantoms, because it's a thrill... like gambling with death. Ah, yes... there's good RP... and it's scary... and maybe I'll survive. Maybe I won't. That's all part of the fun.
' Wrote:Zelot, sorry if I'm wrong but, Ze'ev has hated Junkers since before he even became a Phantom, and it had nothing to do with OORP problems.
No your not wrong. Ze'ev has had a deep hatred for the Junkers from since the character was created, almost 2 years ago. He sees them as worse than any other Gaijin, the worst of the worst of what the rest of Sirius has to offer.
I personally, despite all the comments to the contrary DO NOT have a problem with Junkers. There are many many many really good junkers doing really good rp out there. Just like any other faction, any other group of any kind, they have their good and bad.
' Wrote:I thought he got on pretty well with Rudo and they solved their differences a while ago.
They did indeed. This is not meant to be a personal issue. This is a thread for feedback about the Phantoms as a faction, not a discussion about the motivations of an individual.
Umm.... Guys... This isn't even a feedback thread anymore. It's an argument thread... please stop.
I suppose I should post something constructive. You phantoms have some good RP... and then some bad RP... (trigger happy day) So you should all just try to concentrate more on the RP, not kills.
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